Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

2fast4u_evinrude

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Went for a cruise around the lake today and everything went great about a 20 min ride. I parked in the middle of the lake to get some sun shine. Started the motor and drove it back to the middle again as we drifted close to shore. Shut it off to chill. Went to start it again and and no foward gear just reverse. Only thing I might of did wrong was start it in forward gear. Drove it in reverse all the way back to the dock. One long ride lol Please help
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

what year ?
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Not to sure but I was told that the last two digits of the serial number is the year and mine shows 76. It has a 120hp 2.5 L motor. Did some reading on the service manual and it says to check two wires Blue and Green for power signal. The reverse wire is blue and the green wire is for the forward. Both these wires leads to the stern drive. So I check the blue wire and I get a power signal and the green is a dead signal. Started the motor on land with the garden hose on it and the prop still spins in neutral like it did before but wont kick into forward gear. I am not 100% sure if the green wire is the issue. Not sure what else to check. The throttle control unit?
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

You do have the right of it.

It is important that the outdrive remains properly grounded, via that bonding cable near the port side trunion.

When you engage a gear (f or r) 12 v comes from either blue or green, activates the corresponding magnet, and moves into gear.

If you are engaging forward, and not getting 12 v back to the magnets, you are losing it along the way.

Start at your shift switch. Do you have 12v there? If you put it in forward, do you have 12v right after the switch on green? If so, you know you are losing it between shift and drive. If you dont have 12v, the switch itself could be bad. Losing it right in the switch.

Make sure that you have the 12v feed to the switch. Sounds like you do, if you have reverse.

These are the files that I supplied for the Adults only sticky. The links are gone now but the files are still there.

1964-1986 OMC sterndrive manual:

http://www.4shared.com/file/zF-DZrvB/1964_-_1986_OMC_Sterndrive_Man.html

1987-1998 OMC sterndrive manuals:

http://www.4shared.com/file/2Vy3uORd/1986_-_1998_OMC_Sterndrive_Man.html

1964-1998 OMC wiring diagrams:

http://www.4shared.com/file/K3ct2McS/1964_-_1998_OMC_Wiring_Diagram.html


Good Luck

EDIT:
In a desperate pinch, you could have used a piece of wire, from + battery to the green wire to get home in forward. Dangerous for manuvering, but could get back to general area, remove it, then dock in reverse.

My prop spins in nuetral, but will stop with resistance.
 
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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Not to sure but I was told that the last two digits of the serial number is the year and mine shows 76. It has a 120hp 2.5 L motor. Did some reading on the service manual and it says to check two wires Blue and Green for power signal. The reverse wire is blue and the green wire is for the forward. Both these wires leads to the stern drive. So I check the blue wire and I get a power signal and the green is a dead signal. Started the motor on land with the garden hose on it and the prop still spins in neutral like it did before but wont kick into forward gear. I am not 100% sure if the green wire is the issue. Not sure what else to check. The throttle control unit?

thats good news, hopefully just a wiring or shift control switch issue.
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Ok so I checked the switch and everything looked ok. Its very simple under there so not sure what could go wrong. I went under the dash and there was a small sqaure box looking thing with the green and blue wire coming into it and few other wires. It turns out to be a wire connector that power comes in before the switches. It tested the green wire and no signal and the blue wire has signal when I put it in reverse. So it looks like theres no signal somewhere from the back. I pulled the yellow connector apart in the engine bay and the blue has power from there and the green still no power. Not sure where to go from here
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

After many hours still cant get it to work. Only thing I can think of now is to by bypass the factory switches and wire a 3 way toggle switch. THis way I can send positive power to the blue or green wire. What do you guys think? The link below is a sample of what I was thinking

http://www.instructables.com/id/HOW-TO:-Wire-a-DPDT-rocker-switch-for-reversing-po/
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

It's not that complicated, like you need that kind of switch.

You would just need a 3 position switch, with three terminals.

The common terminal gets 12 volts from ignition.
One terminal gets the blue, and the last terminal gets the green.

Nuetral ( center position ) neither blue, nor green gets energized.
Forward, the switch makes from common to green. Nothing to blue.
Reverse, the switch makes from common to blue, Nothing to green.

You posted " It tested the green wire and no signal and the blue wire has signal when I put it in reverse." That is correct. If you put it in forward you should get power to the green wire, and not to the blue.

Remember the ground is already made by the bonding cable. At no time ever should you have power to both green and blue, at the same time. I am not sure what would happen with a running motor, the two electro magnets would be fighting each other to get into gear.

You should only have power at green, and not blue OR power at blue and not green, at anytime.

When one wire is powered, it passes through the correct electro magnet, engaging that gear and is returned or grounded through the bonding cable, back to the - on battery. Never power to both. There are two magnets. The blue feeds one, the green the other. Blue to green is not a circuit.

Have you looked at the wiring diagrams that I linked to? It might help with the visual of what I am trying to explain.

Edit:
Here is a crude drawing showing the three way switch function and the two seperate coils.
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Thanks KRH1326, I am heading to the store right now to buy one of those toggle switch. Ill let you know asap. So if this does work, would it be safe to say something is messed up in my shifter? What I had to do before was push in a button on the side of the shifter and it would engage in gear
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

one thing to keep in mind too is that with that toggle switch your boat will be able to start while it is in gear, possible safety issue. I am sure someone that is a 12 volt master can help you rig an extra switch so that that one extra switch has to be activated before the boat will crank over. just a thought.
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Ok so got back from the store and got a "on off on" (forward, neutral, reverse)toggle switch. I wired it as per your diagram. Went to start and and BINGO. I got all gears back. Keep in mind my shifter casing was all apart. So I shut the boat down and began to put everything back together. Start it up again for 2 min and then put it in forward while at idle speed and BAM. Some loud noise from the back end and it shut the motor off. Wasnt sure if I put the shifter back together properly so I took it apart again and put it all back together again. Tried it again and it seemed to worked fine again. Wonder what that could be? Im thinking that maybe the toggle switch gave out signal to both forward and reverse?? Im scared to try it again
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Just put some more thought into it. I think to play it safe I will run two "on off" toggle switches. When both down position = neutral. Press one of the toggle switch upwards to go into either forward or reverse gear.
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

If I were you, I would try to find a new control. If you accidentally hit that switch at speed and you happen to switch from forward to reverse, you are going to have HUGE problems. We won't even talk about the safety issues of starting in gear.
 

2fast4u_evinrude

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

ya u got a good point. I guess for now I can do a temp fix till I get this all figured out.
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

don't shift a sterndrive with a 99 cent switch.

your shifting is your emergency brakes in a boat

There's several amperes of current continuously flowing to the coil when in gear. The contacts in that dollar store switch are probably welding together, preventing disengagement.

Fix it right (proper parts, new or used)
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Well all the shops are slammed for 3 weeks so I figured this will work for now. I ended up wiring 3 switches. One is the "forward neutral Reverse switch" and then two kill switch for the forward and reverse. THis way I cant see anything that can go wrong unless I messed up. I will be extra careful in the mean time. As for the original problem I am thinking its the shifter button. I took it apart but it didnt look like much in there. No wires or anything attached to the push button. Not sure what else to check. I found a pic of the exact shifter on this forum (sorry for using your pic)
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

0172123 SWITCH & CONNECTOR ASSY

no longer available :(

convert


look for a used control, or use an ohmmeter to test the one you have
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

Where can I find a used one? Also u think the 3 switches would work for now?
 

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Re: Omc Sterdrive no forward, just reverse gear

I tried searching ebay and nothing. Theres no marine salvage places in my area :( wheres a good place?
 
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