OMC vs MERCURY MERC MORE RELIABLE?

Scali

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Which Merc models did you own Bill ?
 
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Scali:<br /><br />The Evinrude's I've owned were an older 3hp (like 1965 or so), a 1980 15hp and now the e-tec 50hp. <br /><br />The Merc's were a 1992 3hp and the 2003 50hp I traded last year for the e-tec. <br /><br />I'm not slammin' Merc. This is just my personal experience with the two brands. Eveinrudes have been so much better for me. But it's now a whole new ballgame. The newer motors seem to all be so much better.<br /><br />Bill
 

jim dozier

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Personnally I think these questions are sort of like whether you like the missionary position or the woman on top. I may have a preference but it ain't based on science and I'll be happy to have my second choice in lieu of none at all. :D
 

Scali

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I was just curious if the Merc you had trouble with was an early optimax { they were a nightmare but good now} & what models to avoid..<br />I'm a little suprised the 50 wasnt nice to you, maybe you got a lemon.<br />& I believe from what I've read these E tec's may <br />be something special.<br />I'm enjoying my old Merc 40 for now but one day may get me an E tec as well ..
 

kirkland

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For the last 11 years me and my family go to the same place, the same two weeks, and see the same people, who do the same as us..It's like a Lake family that you only see once a year but talk to here and there ...Kinda nice...anyway back to the subject ....7 out of the last 8 years tim...a guy two cabins over has been towed back to the shore with issues on his Merc..i think its a 50 mid 90's model...i myself have towed him five times...he keeps yelling about his motor, i keep thinking glad i don't own that thing....he says this year he will have a E-Tec and lend a hand to anyone he finds in his previous condition....it's not the boat but the motors that seem to make us crazy...on a side note the year he didn't get towed back he forgot to put the plug in, lanched boat, docked boat....sunk boat... :) took him awhile to live that one down...
 
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Scali:<br /><br />When I got the Merc 2 1/2 years ago, I had high hopes. But they were quickly dashed. The motor never actually "broke", though. It was just a bad motor. It smoked, ran rough, was hard starting, used a lot of gas and would die--right at the worst time (like when trying to avoid hitting another boat at the launch). <br /><br />On the plus side, I have to say it was very fast. I was able to do upper 30s --and even hit 40 one perfect afternoon. <br /><br />I hated to trade such a new motor because I lost my shirt but I just could not deal with it anymore.<br /><br />Maybe it was a lemon--but I really doubt it. <br /><br />Thanks for askin'<br /><br />Bill
 

Scali

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Bill, she smoked, ran rough, hard starting, stalled, thats the Mercury charm & experience :D <br />My 40 is a 1994 4 cyl. & I love the way she pushes my whaler though, smooth motor, intoxicating sound @ around 20 knot cruise.<br />Never failed me so far.. but she doesnt start as well as other brand OB's I've owned & loads up a little coming back up the creek ..<br />Enjoy rhe E Tec, bet you'll like it :cool:
 

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Ok, so they made a lot more Johnnyrudes.... <br />I totally agree that the Johnnyrudes are MUCH easier to work on... I kinda like to buy mercs because I can get more$$$ out of them when I sell. I don't know why but people pay a lot more for them.<br /> What's the average life expectancy of an older(70's or 80's) two cycle outboard that has been properly cared for? I never see an hour meter on one and didn't know if anyone had some numbers.<br /> I've heard rebuilt engine have half the life expectancy....
 

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The life of a rebuilt engine is directly related to the experience level of the person(s) O/H'ing the engine. The life of an O/H is usually cut short due to other parts of the unit breaking that had no attention at powerhead O/H.
 

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Being a Merc man, I will tend to lean towards Merc, but then I have never owned any outboard motor that was built after 1970 either, and I have owned several. My 69 Merc 1250 has continued to be the best motor I have ever owned. It always starts, and always runs strong. I do moderate maintenance on it, it still has the original distributor cap and rotor, as well as original wires. In fact, as far as I know, the only thing that has been changed is the plugs and water pump impellor. Still runs strong. Heck, when I did check the distro cap and rotor, the leads were severely coroded, but it still ran fine. I cleaned the leads and the rotor, still runs fine. 125 lbs in each cylinder.<br /><br />Now, my little 57 Johnson 5.5 has been the biggest PITA (pain in the arse), but it is all maintenance items. I have new coils on order, and once I get those damn High speed and Low speed knobs dialed in, it may be a decent little motor, but I wish I would have bought that little 69 6 hp Merc from my buddy. You just pull the cord and do your thing, no fuss.<br /><br />I think it is true, there are just more OMCs out there than Mercs, period. I will continue to be loyal to Merc, but I also like the other brands as well, particularly Honda.
 

Paul Moir

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I'll trade you a 1980 Mercury Gnat 4hp 2 cylinder in like-new condition for that old '57 5.5hp! This will certainly show my bias but I don't think Mercury ever really got the hang of the smaller outboards. The newer ones don't seem that bad, but what they offered in late 60s to early 80s I don't think compare to the J/Es of the time.
 

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Tempting, but I'll stick with my 5.5. 4hp just won't be enough kicker for my boat. Plus, I am sort of fond of the little feller. Once I get the coils put in and everything adjusted, I know it will be a great little motor.
 

pspear43

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Someone above mentioned Yamaha making motors for Merc, Suzuki makin 'em for Johnson etc. What's the latest on that? Who was making what for whom and what is the status now?<br /><br />Thanks
 

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thats kind of funny with the 5.5 johny because mine went from my dads first 12 ft boat<br /><br />to a kicker on his second boat<br /><br />to a motor on my first sailboat<br /><br />to a motor for my second sailboat (pushing a 24 ft boat for 5 years sometimes for 30 or more miles)<br /><br />till final retirement when i allmost got in trouble because it was a shortshaft after 30 years of one speed WFO<br /><br />and of corse i bought the 6 hp rude which was every bit as good <br /><br />tommays
 

JasonJ

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That little 5.5 has been a godsend ever since I put new coils and adjusted the high/low speed jets. It fires right up, never a problem. Of course, my Merc does too... :)
 

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are omc's made by merc? i ask because all my omc parts have an 'm' cast into them same as the old merc symbol. i always hated mercs as i heard so much about electrical problems but now i own a merc and its great.
 

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Having seen the title of this thread, I knew it was an open invitation for war.
Well, no matter which you buy, if you take care of it, chances are it will last.
I'm a Merc man, I currently own 4 and not a bum in the lot.
I would have no problem with a Johnson or Evinrude, just not as familiar with them and the opportunity simply has never arisen.
 

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These discussions always seem to fall along brand lines in acordance with what users have owned over a long period of time. I was never much of a Merc guy, and have always viewed them as being marginal in terms of reliability. Since my outboard experience has always been with OMCs, with an occassional Chrysler thrown in, however, maybe I'm wrong about the Merc relaibility.

These days, my feeling about outboards has more to do with when they were made, rather than specific brand. I also think that there is a parallel to the automotive industry. To me, the old motors are the ones that are rock solid, if they have been refurbished properly. With the advent of new technologies to increase fuel economy and improve environmental friendliness, what I see is a pronounced drop in relaibility. This also seems to be a function of rated horsepower. It just seems to me that the never ending quest for more power, along with extreme complication, has produced a few generations of motors that are lucky to last a few years, and aren't particularly reliable during those years. But, like the autos, that reliability may come back as the technology get more settled. Heck, my 2000 Chevy van has close to 160,000 miles on it and I have done essentially no engine work to it.

One of my best boating memories is of a day in a very unusual boat/motor setup that I once had - it was a 15 foot Glassmaster trihull with two John 6hp motors, fully rigged with remote controls and steering. While launching at the ramp, a guy next to me, who had just put a new motor on his go-fast bass boat, was literally giving me a hard time about my boat. Yup, he was being rude as hell and prancing over the $20,000 motor he had just bought. He left the ramp first, blew out of the no wake zone, and disappeared around the first bend in the bayou. I followed at my "mach speed" of 8mph ... guess who I found, dead in the water, around that first bend ... you got, Mr. 'Tude. Guess who towed Mr. 'Tude's posterior in, with a pair of screaming 6hp motors .... um. yes, that would have beem me! Mr. 'Tude was very quiet on the way back. He also couldn't look his buddy, who had been quite embarrassed at his original behavior, in the eye. As it turned out, the problem was caused by having the wrong fuel connector for the new engine, but it was still lots of fun to tow such an expensive rig in with a pair of 30+ year old motors!

I guess the moral to the story is that any motor is the best thing since sliced bread, if you can keep it running all of the time. If it doesn't want to run, it doesn't matter what brand it is, or how much it costs, its junk.

I'll take my 30 -40 year old OMCs, TYVM! Who knows, maybe I'll see you on the end of my tow harness one day! :D
 
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