OSHA Back-Door Gun Control attempt UPDATE!!

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The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has proposed new rules that would have a dramatic effect on the storage and transportation of ammunition and handloading components such as primers or black and smokeless powder. The proposed rule indiscriminately treats ammunition, powder and primers as ?explosives.? Among many other provisions, the proposed rule would:

* Prohibit possession of firearms in commercial ?facilities containing explosives??an obvious problem for your local gun store.
* Require evacuation of all ?facilities containing explosives??even your local Wal-Mart?during any electrical storm.
* Prohibit smoking within 50 feet of ?facilities containing explosives.?

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If they cannot take your guns, they'll settle for the ammo -- FOR NOW!

 

[Bob_VT]

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GRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

 

[Haut Medoc]

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A bit over the top!.....
OSHA does have a purpose, but that is not it!......​

 

[Kalifornyakid]

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"Big Government" at it's finest.

Smite Big Government!

 

[Boomyal]

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With examples like this, if anyone doubts the our government beauracracies are not packed full of left wing ideologues, then you have your heads buried six feet in the sand.

As 12 said, this is nothing but a backdoor attempt at gun control.

Smite all liberals!!

 

[ZmOz]

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Good thing I have 12 lbs of black powder saved up.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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How stupid are these people. Just the mentioning of something like this is going to get people rushing out to buy ammo. This is only going to create many small stockpiles of ammo that will probably NOT be stored correctly.
Seems to me that this is going to make a bigger problem for local firefighters.

Now watch as the price of ammo/primers/poweder skyrocket. IMHO,,,bad idea.

 

[rwise]

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How stupid are these people.

very, most of the OSHA inspecters I have worked with did not know what they were inspecting, pis poor on there part.

Just the mentioning of something like this is going to get people rushing out to buy ammo. This is only going to create many small stockpiles of ammo that will probably NOT be stored correctly.
Seems to me that this is going to make a bigger problem for local firefighters.

yep

Now watch as the price of ammo/primers/poweder skyrocket. IMHO,,,bad idea.

and thats the bottom line is getting more money out of you and I!!

 

[aspeck]

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Boom, I wouldn't put that as a liberal mantra to take away your guns, I would say that it just proves there are a bunch of wackos out there that want to do it and for some reason people keep voting for them - I guess we have even more wackos voting ...

There are a miriad of reasons this rulling bothers me, several have already been said. The biggest one is, if you can't vote out the constitution, then legislate around it, and if that doesn't work, then regulate it to death!

 

[Bob_VT]

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This is all going to result in one thing..... more gov't OSHA workers and higher pay for them. The person who started this found a way to boost OSHA in a way similar to the Homeland Security obtaining endless funding regardless if it is passed or not.

 

[RubberFrog]

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You guys sound as if you're not stockpiling ammo already!

 

[tommays]

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It is not like there doing any real safety inspections unless there is a direct complaint SO maybe this will give them a mission


Tommays

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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You guys sound as if you're not stockpiling ammo already!

DUH, Heck yeah, I like rotating it so I know I have fresh to use when needed. If it is going to be a pain to obtain, I sure don't want bad ammo when I most certainly may need it.

Bullets are a lot safer to store than that of fireworks if ya ask me.

Got to go to wedding now,,,,,,,,,,,may need my double barrel

 

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I've been in an around heavy construction and equipment most of my life. I remember the "PRE-OSHA" days very well. I remember "riding the hook" at age 17 while jetting seawall. OSHA put a stop to that. In the interest of "public safety" -- while they put me out of one job, and have been around every bush on every job since, waiting for me or my employer to f--k-up.

I had no problem with any of that, having been convinced that the duties they were assigned to were "in the interest of public safety"... I did however, find it odd, that every OSHA-instituted "from-now-on" came at the expense of the employer's bottom line, or employee's comfort, often-times making the employee keel-over from heat stroke (I live in Florida -- we git bear-caught quite often in those silly orange vests down here).So it is beginning to look like standard operational procedure for OSHA to intervene in freedoms and commerce as an end-objective.

I realize it is Saturday, but think of the job you do, and then -- think of what OSHA has done to it. My bet is that it will be plagued with OSHA-instituted hurdles at every turn.... And my money is on a less cost-effective product as a direct result.

 

[rwise]

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I worked overhead bridge cranes for 25 years, the OHSA rules are many, (start at CFR 1910.179) book after book of fine print and reffer to other books. One of my job duties was to go to a customers shop and inspect there equipment for compliance with OSHA rules. You would be suprised at just how many safety violations I found, stuff that could get someone killed or worse. (yes I beleave there are worse things than death). In one hand OSHA is a good thing, in another they get carried away with rules, but the biggest thing I have seen with OSHA inspectors is they dont know what they are looking at, inspecting or what it is sposed to do or look like! They need training to do there job and dont get any!

 

[12Footer]

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And they also need to pry themselves away from labor and industry's teet... use a crowbar if necessary.
And yes, I've had OSHA goons appear without warning on my projects, camera at the ready, knave w/obligatory clipboard at his side, asking me "what does this do?", "What is that machine?"
But they need more than just a job-specific goon squad... They need boundaries when dealing with private property. They act as tho the worker is always trying to hide something from the leaches.
Go figure.
But then, we must factor-in the wages these guys make, and where they come from. Most are walk-ins, fresh out of high school with no werk experiance behind them, werking for a buck or two over minimum wage, while their pale, agenda-driven bosses never leave their dank, dark offices... "Just get them on something before you leave"... Meaning, "you have not justified my salary until you produce a product".. A little lesson they learned from feeding-off the spinal fluids of the producers, no-doubt.

 

[Boomyal]

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Boom, I wouldn't put that as a liberal mantra to take away your guns, I would say that it just proves there are a bunch of wackos out there that want to do it and for some reason people keep voting for them - I guess we have even more wackos voting ...

There are a miriad of reasons this rulling bothers me, several have already been said. The biggest one is, if you can't vote out the constitution, then legislate around it, and if that doesn't work, then regulate it to death!

The OSHA deal is not even an issue of legislation, this is an issue of beauracratic fiat. That is one of the reasons why the centralization, that the Left craves, is so fraught with danger and why the Founding Fathers tried to guard against it.

The Left has learned the power of the beauracracy and that is why they are stuffed with their adherants. That and the adage about 'absolute power' makes them nearly invincible.

These entities are beyond the citizens control. Unless Congress steps in to defund a specific activity, they pretty much do as they please. Even a Republican President doesn't want to tangle with the entrenched beauracracies. The Dept of State is a prime example and that is a beaucracy that is very close to the President's day to day dealings.

 

[JRJ]

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If this OSHA thing is as bad as stated and an encroachment on our 2nd amendment rights to boot, I'm afraid there is blame on both sides. Sadly, in our enthusiasm to smash terrorism, we, the law abiding, are being sold out. I don't believe the Federal Government wants a citizenry that has the means to protect themselves.
We are in a world war for our very existence and millions of dollars in Home Land Security money is being spent on equipment that amounts to little more than toys for agencys all over the country.
What are the Feds thinking?

 

[Boomyal]

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The possible bright light is that Congress has been known to put the kybosh on it's over zealous beauracracies in the past. Whether this 14% approved Socialist Congress will do anything remains to be seen. There are certainly many in the party of power that would be gleefull at this move.

Years ago, the BATF took it upon itself to start a database of all gun purchases by loading data off of the Federal 4473 forms that, by law were to be retained by the dealer or archieved by the Feds should that dealer go out of business. They were always available for consultation when the misuse of a specific firearm required law enforcement to trace the firearm from the manufacturer/wholesaler/dealer to consumer chain. But there was no data base that anyone could arbitrarily access to find all gun owners.

At that juncture, Congress stepped in and reduced the BATF funding so that they would not have the funds to do it. This case is a bit different but there are always the courts. Fortunately the Left does not have a firm grip on them yet.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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Fortunately the Left does not have a firm grip on them yet.

Give us time.