outboard capacity

redlinj

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Generally speaking, my boat is rated for up 200hp. What would the minimum optimal hp be? I read somewhere it should be at least 70% of the OBC.
 

Chris1956

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75% of max is a good choice, and will give good performance. lesser HP will still work, to a point. Not sure I would go below 90 - 100HP.
 

drrpm

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70 % of max is the least that will give good performance. Of course your intended use is important and if you're just out for relaxed cruising or fishing then you could go close to 140 HP. For watersports I'd say 200 HP is what you want.
 

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Generally speaking, my boat is rated for up 200hp. What would the minimum optimal hp be? I read somewhere it should be at least 70% of the OBC.

The "optimal" power is whatever the boat is rated for. That way, you won't be wanting more. :)
 

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I' m usually of the opinion of install the largest engine the boat can handle. Why? Because when the engine gets some age on it and gets tired, you still have enough to be happy...
 

redlinj

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The boat is a Sylvan 21' super sportster. From I've been able to find, it weights in at 1100 lbs. dry. OBC is 200hp, but only has an 88hp on it. Seems a bit small, but still pushes the boat to 33-34 mph on GPS.
 
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Originally Posted by jestor68 The "optimal" power is whatever the boat is rated for. That way, you won't be wanting more. :)



Yes you will.

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When the man buys a motorboat, he will want a bigger motorboat.

And the bank will love the man and boat.
 
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Re: outboard capacity

If the boat's rated for 200 then put a 200 on it and quit fretting. I could maybe see going with a 150, but certainly no smaller than that.

Why's it have an 88 on it anyway?
 

coolbri70

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I would be happy with 33-34 mph:noidea: are you trying to go faster? put the motor on a smaller boat, use less fuel:bolt:
 

roscoe

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His boat is aluminum, and has a great hull design. It planes out very easily, and the boat is very light.
This is the same hull as a Starcraft Islander.
For many years, the i/o versions, in 21 and 22' lengths, only came with a 3L 140 hp engine.
They are great boats, and don't require lots of hp.

Hull speed is going to be approx 50 mph, and anything over 140 or 150 hp, will be of little benefit.
 

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I agree. While the general 70% rule is a good one, it it also just that: general. Some boats are made to hold way more power than they need. Bass boats are a great example.

If you are going 34 mph in a 21' boat with an 88, you are doing fine as is. If your engine dioes and you have to replace it, bump to 115, save gas and $$ and weight.

Maybe it's a coastal thing, where top speed is seldom a concern.
 

Triangleboater

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I have to agree with Bubba here. 34mph on the lake is pretty darn quick. If it gets on plane easy, you have it made! Also, why switch out a running engine? I don't know if you are in the same boat* as I am (no pun intended), but i have very shallow pockets. Stick with the 88.
 

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redlinj, what types of water do you plan to use the boat - small lakes, big lakes, rivers, ocean? How do you plan to use it? Are you a speed and adrenaline guy or are you more budget conscious?

That general rule that you quoted is, as Home Cookin' mentioned, just a general rule - partly based on performance and partly based on resale value. It's often easier to sell your boat when it's got the biggest motor on it because depreciation has knocked out a lot of the initial cost. Some boats have a narrow range of power, meaning there is a minimum HP needed to propel the weight of the boat and occupants and it's not too far off from the maximum HP rating of the transom.

Your boat has a very wide range, meaning that you could hang something even smaller than the 88hp or go all the way up to 200hp. I have a 90hp (the maximum hp rating) on my 16.5' Alumacraft and it goes in the mid-to-upper 30s with gear and people. That's plenty fast for me and I'm on a lake that is 35 miles across. When I'm fishing and going from spot to spot, I don't go much past half throttle. Some guys need to hang a 200hp on the back and gun it from spot-to-spot. It all depends on what you want to do. For me that's a lot of money to spend on something that I don't need. Don't forget that a different prop can change how a motor works for you. If the 88hp goes 33-34mph but struggles to get on plane with 4-5 people onboard, you can drop the pitch on your prop and it'll carry a heavy load much better - setting you back $150 for a new prop instead of $15k or more for a new motor.

So a lot of your "optimal" question comes back to what your intended uses are and how much you're willing to spend. Obviously 88hp pushes that boat just fine and based on going 33-34mph you could probably even drop down to a 60hp or 70hp if desired. Anything between that 60/70 and 200hp is optimal depending on how you choose to define it.
 
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Home Cookin'

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Back in the day, my uncle had a Ferrari. He didn't like it when my dad said that his buick stationwagon was just as fast at 55 mph as his Ferrari was.
Point is, if you are on the kind of water where you aren't likely to go over 35 often if at all, there's no need to have a boat that will.
 

redlinj

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Thanks for all your input!!!!!! 34 mph for me is plenty fast! Here, on Lake Erie, the opportunity for faster doesn't happen all that often. Even 1' swells can knock the heck out of me--like going 15 rounds with Mike Tyson and coming out 2nd best! My main concern was that 88 hp is less than half of what the obc (200) is and that perhaps I could be doing the motor some harm. The 88 was on the boat when I purchased it. Hummm, Lets see, it's an '88 Sylvan with an '88 Johnson 88hp spl. Coincidence? I don't know.
 

Home Cookin'

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it would be bad mojo to change those numbers. Name the boat 8-ball and have fun!
 

redlinj

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You have a good point there Cookie! I'll have to break out a bottle of champagne for the new christening. The current name, which also came with the boat, is the "Ellie May."
 

greenbush future

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How the fuel usage on the boat with the 88? does it seem to be over worked or is it just normal on gas usage? A smaller motor can consume more fuel if it's always working at top end instead of the middle of it's normal power band. Some guys get better fuel consumption running the bigger optioned motors. The trick is to keep your foot off the gas. My 19 footer aluminum has a Merc 90 on her, and it's on the lower side of the max HP, but it suits me fine when I'm on the great lakes. Just like you, it's a rare situation when I can open her up and get going much over "cruising speed". I pay more attention to my RPM's than the speedometer, cruising speed for me is mid 20's MPH.
 

Captain Caveman

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You have a good point there Cookie! I'll have to break out a bottle of champagne for the new christening. The current name, which also came with the boat, is the "Ellie May."
May I suggest a fine bottle of vintage 1988 champagne?
 

snowman48047

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Since you are on Lake Erie, I would suggest going with the max hp the boat is rated for AND you can afford. Your 88hp is only 44% of max power. How much are you at WOT? If alot, then that motor is working very hard. I bought my Lund (rated for 120hp) with a 50hp. I run on Lake St. Clair and like you, most of the time I can't run all out. However, I repowered with a 115 and what it did is open more of the lake to me on clamer days, and therefore more fishing locations.
 
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