painting probs Lund

[Zander]

Hello,

My friends and I have sinds 1 year some Lund boats (Classic1660, Explorer 1600 and proguide 1765)

Afther 1 year we have all the same prob, the "lak" is bubbling (like corrosion)
Is there anywone with the same prob, and what can we do about ?

The Dealer in Holland told us that he can not help us, what about the warranty?

Its pretty bad , beacouse we decided to take lund boats fore the quality and support !!

Before this boat I had some Lund Rebel 1625 , I never had any probs with, is the new generation boats miner from quality ?

Grts,

From Belgium,

 

[Zander]

Re: painting probs Lund

this is mine

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[Steve in Indiana]

Re: painting probs Lund

Zander,

It would be a very rare sight to see an Audi pulling a boat in the US. Nice looking boat, motor, and tow vehicle. (is the Audi a diesel?). It is also neat to see that the taillamps of the trailer extend past the motor on a separate, removeable frame. We don't do that here.

I am fairly certain that Lund uses a Polyurethane paint that should be highly resistant to damage by the weather or even saltwater. Perhaps the paint "flaking" (I think that is what you meant) was caused by mechanical damage (a dent perhaps, or small rocks hitting it while on the trailer)?

I haven't seem anything on these internet sites to suggest that Lund is having widespread paint problems, but if you and your friends have multiple boats with the same symptoms it certainly could be possible. But I haven't heard of an epidemic of this.

If the problem is indeed with flaking paint due to bad adhesion then I think your dealer needs to contact Lund for you and investigate a solution. If your dealer is resistant to helping you and your friends, you may have to contact Lund directly yourself and explain the concerns with the paint quality.

If the Aluminum is corroding under the paint that is even worse to think about. Are you using these boats in seawater? Aluminum will corrode eventually - especially if the boat is always left in the water. I don't remember much from my corrosion lessons, but if the boat is in saltwater all the time and you have electrical accessories plugged in I think it can make the corrosion worse. I hope that's not the problem though since it would be more than cosmetic. Also, if the rivets are a different alloy of Aluminum perhaps a unique condition exists that is causing galvanic action between the hull and the rivet, is corroding, and is bubbling the paint.

In summary, if there is no mechanical damage (dents, scratches, holes, etc) to the hull your dealer needs to investigate this further with Lund for you. If the dealer is resistent to helping, you may have to contact the distributor or Lund directly for warranty assistance.

If my reply doesn't translate well for you I apologize. Tell me and I will try to simplify it.

Good luck!

Steve

 

[Navy Jr.]

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I toured the Lund factory in New York Mills, Minnesota about a year ago and recall they said the paint they use is an "automotive quality" marine paint. That made me wonder if it was enamel or acrylic, but I didn't ask.

 

[Senderofan]

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I'm not exactly sure what the paint is made out of....but a year ago I got the paint codes from my local Lund dealer. For my boat, it's PPG automotive paint.

Good Luck,

Wayne

 

[Zander]

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http://www.pegabv.nl/nl/start_nl.html

the url above is from the trailers, witch whe are verry happy with.
take note that we have to drive about 250 km for some fishingday !

I had contact with the dealer, he told me that some year ago ther was some lund line with simular problems, i will be come to my house and will check if there is not some magnetique field that maybe be the source of the problem,i d out it ;-((

The audi is A6 , 2.7 Diesel
But i prefer some big SUV lke you gays in the US. match easyer to pull the boat out of the water.
I also loves your bunks and roller trailers, but they are not allowd in Belgium and Holland (and the ramps go not deep in to the water)

my next boat I hope I can let him come directly form the states !!!

The painting problem is not couse of some inpact , its comming realy from interieur of the boat ,i will try to make some pictures and post them asap.

 

[Dale BROOKS]

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Zander,
I have a new Lund 1800 Sports Angler that I have owned since June 2006 and I too am having paint problems like you have described. The paint began bubbling on the transom and the well behind the transom at the beginning of the 2007 boating season. It has since spread to other parts of the boat. I keep my Lund tented on dry land when it is not in the water. All of my boating is in saltwater on Puget Sound out of Kingston, WA near Seattle, WA.

Master Marine in Mt. Vernon, WA the dealer who I purchased the boat from ran a "dry" electrical test to determine if there was any positive current flowing through the boat that would have caused this problem, i.e., setting up and electrical field resulting in ionic corrosion that then caused the paint bubbling. They reported to Lund and me that the test was negative.

It has been suggested that a "wet" test (current flowing from the motor(s)to the boat) should be run, but no one here seems to have the equipment to do this. I have pretty much ruled this out because a technician at closer marina, where I have my Lund winterized indicated that as long as there is no evidence of corrosion on either motor there is no galvanic action between the two units. Both motors are free of any signs of corrosion and there is very little evidence of erosion of the two zinc blocks on the motors.

I am beginning to believe, confirmed by the technician at the other marina, that it is simply a bad paint job. Interestingly Lund seems prepared to have the boat repainted, but before doing so I want to be absolutely sure that we have identified the source of the problem.

I hope this helps and if there are nay other Lund owners who have had the same problem we would like to here from you. Thanks.
Dale B

 

[Zander]

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Hi Dale,

Thx for the explanation, like jou discribes ist the same prob we have , and we go NVER on salt wather

The dealer made some test on the Minnkota in board chargers this maybe the couse he told us ???

You are talking about repainting the hole boat , i wonder if its possible overhere in Belgium ? i check it out with the dealer.

I think also to change him for some new lund Rebel XL SS, but before i whant to be sure that i will not have the same probs, otherwise I will go to Alumacraft .

 

[Zander]

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for Dale

3 friends of me have the same prob, Its concerning 2 explorers 1675 ,1 Classic 1660 (mine) and 1 Classic 1625

All those boats where deliverd by the same dealer in the same period (between May and July 2007)

If the problem is like you told urlier, that it is some bat painting job, than they may changing the hole F**g line ,

thx anyway to help us to find some solution !

 

[Dale BROOKS]

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Zander,
I suspect you are right that it is a bad paint job although I'm sure they will not acknowledge this. I also think it has something to do with dissimilar metals as the paint bubbling on my boat is at the screws and rivets in the hull.

The boat is away for the winter so I will be taking this up with Lund again next spring.
Dale Brooks

 

[Zander]

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Hi Dale,

Do you have some inboard charger in your boat ?(whe all do)

My dealer mentoined that this may be the couse ?

I will send my concerence to the Brunswick group , this is the group where Minnkota is part of.
Ik keep you informed, please let me know if you get more information about this.

BTW,
The locations that you mentoined in your mail, its like ower boats.
I will post you some pictures.

 

[Dale BROOKS]

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Zander,
I'm not sure I have an onboard charger. I always assumed there was an alternator on the the two motors that charged the battery. The owners manual is not clear on this. I'll ask Lund.

You have referred to Brunswick and Minnkota in your postings. Do they own or have an interest in Lund now? I know that Lund was sold a year or so ago, but I don't know to whom.
Dale Brooks

 

[Senderofan]

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Dale:

My two channel, built in chargers have a square black cover over the power cord. The cover is maybe 3" by 3"...open it up and there is a black power cord inside. My boat is a 2001 1800 Fisherman...and this cord is located on the front side of where the front passenger sits...just below the windshield...and towards the outside.

These built in chargers are for trolling motor set ups usually. I think you're exactly right when you say the alternator on the engine is for the starting battery.

Yes, Lund was sold to Brunswick in 2004...along with other Genmar boat companies:



Newspaper article from our research archive:

Brunswick to purchase aluminum boat maker
Article from: Chicago Sun-Times Article date: March 9, 2004 Author: Danielle Kost More results for: Brunswick purchasing Lund Boats | Copyright informationCopyright 2004 Chicago Sun-Times. (Hide copyright information)

Lake Forest-based Brunswick Corp., the maker of Sea Ray and Bayliner fiberglass boats, agreed to buy aluminum boat brands from Genmar Holdings Inc. for $191 million, allowing it to expand into a product line in which it has little presence.

The three Genmar brands -- Crestliner, Lowe and Lund -- had combined sales of $311 million for the year ended June 30. They produce fishing, pontoon, deck and utility boats ranging from 10 feet to 25 feet.

Crestliner Inc. is based in Little Falls, Minn.; Lowe Boats Inc. is based in Lebanon, Mo., and Lund Boats Inc. is based in New York Mills, Minn. The deal also includes Genmar Boats Canada Inc., based in Steinbach, Manitoba, which makes Lund boats in ...

Wayne

 

[Zander]

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i meant to take contact with Johnson outdoors concerning the inboard charger (Minnkota)
i use thise charger to reload my batteries that I use for my fronttoller (Terova 80Lbs and Backtroller Vatage 80 Lbs).
The dealer told me that this can be the source of the painting probs(corosion).

Thx

Z

 

[Dale BROOKS]

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After doing some research I have concluded that I do not have an onboard charger so that is not the reason for the corrosion.
Dale

 

[sschipper]

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I have a 2006 Lund Explorer. Have paint blistering (with corrosion beneath the paint) on the rear transom. Took to repair shop who said it was in the material. Insurance company feels it was something on the aluminum when it was painted. Talked with Lund and they indicated this could be due electrolysis. I've dry tested all electronics and they tested good. Boat has been washed after every use and is stored in a shed. Has not been in salt water. This is a one owner boat.

Am looking to see if anyone got any questions answered since this thread was started in 2008.

I believe it's in the materials itself, and cannot get Lund to do anything about it. Looking for ideas from fellow fisherman.

Scott

 

[DonHof]

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The instruction that came with my Minn Kota charger said not to mount it on aluminum.
I have mine on a piece of plastic with plastic bolts and nuts. Don't know if this is any help.

Don