Part Number and No Spark

[lpkirby]

Is there a web site that will give me the part numbers for my 1968 65 hp Evinrude? All the sites I go to do not list my year for parts? So I figure if I have the part numbers I can go to NAPA or maybe its under another year. <br />Please help if you can. Also I have no Spark on my 1968 65hp Evinrude Model # 65853b<br /><br />Thanks

 

[Waterbugtoo]

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So you want someone that worked hard and spent lots of money to build a website give you numbers so you can go get the parts at NAPA? You really should be ashamed of doing such things.

 

[rons boat]

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How are you comming on trying to find out if either one of those machines will make a spark anywhere? Sorry I gave away my manual recently or I .... Well you get the picture. Let us know if spinning the flywheel makes a spark anywhere. Any? Guys that provide this wonderful service can tell you if they happen to have one of the old distributors that were the subject of lots of "Tracking". They used to be unavailable. I just hope you have some spark and don't need one or an amplifier either for that matter.

 

[alcan]

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Hi Lyman <br />Shoot me an e-mail I have some info for you.<br /> Alcan.fixit2@verizon.net

 

[lpkirby]

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Well the problem is all the web sites that have Parts, do not list my year! Surely I can get parts for this thing somewhere. The only reason way I said NAPA is they do carry some of my parts but they need part numbers. Tell me SOMEONE(website) who carries my parts and Charge what every one else is charging and Ill order it from them.<br /><br />Not to change the subject, But today I tested for Spark...... no go, no spark anywhere... so I hope after I redo the wire harness that Ill get some spark. A lot of the green wires are shot so I hope that is way it will not fire..<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Leon

 

[lpkirby]

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Hi Ron...<br /><br />Please dont tell me the Dist Cap, and amplifier is going to cost me an arm and a leg.. No spark, but wires are in bad shape. Would that cause no fire? Also plug wires are old.<br /><br />Thanks for help,<br /><br />In seach for Info and not trying to rip anyone off...

 

[alcan]

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Hi lyman<br /> Slow down a little bit. Before we get all work up about ignit. stuff we need to know if the L/U seems to be in order. How about controls and boat wireing? Do you have all that stuff. It's going to be impossible to test the ignit and electcal system with roten wire harnesses. I suggest that you pull the flywheel and inspect and test everything under there. Get a note book, record what you do, keep a list of the parts you will need. Then price all parts. This will give you an idea what your up against and best chance for sucess. I looked up the prices for most of the parts that you might need the other night. My latest price guide is dated 1993. The total came to around $600. give or take. Don't freak out yet, where there's a will there's a way. You do your own figguring and shopping. There is a deal every day, you just gotta find it.

 

[rons boat]

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Everybody works a differnt way and that is ok..I usually spend a few minutes to get the old wires back together temporarly before I go further, others may not. Looing under the flywheel is quite revealing and provides some answers. Just keep in mind how everything is supposed to work and use your own personal skills to analyze.

 

[alcan]

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Yes I agree with Ron. But Ron, his wiring isn't just broke in a few spots. On these rascals they are nothing but plastic coated green dust.

 

[lpkirby]

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Alcan and Ron<br /><br />Ok I have slowed down, ok first off the wireing is like green dust! its aweful, I did not pull the flywheel yet. But I can manualy put the motor in reverse and forward and prop turns. So I guess that tell me its not seized up in the lower unit... right?<br /><br />So Alcan you suggest pulling the flywheel and testing everything that the book shows me how?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Leon

 

[rons boat]

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Yes, I know that the wiring is awful, but really the ignition systems can be haywired together for testing. I guess go a head a pull the flywheel. Why don't you pull all the plugs out of the low compression block and pull the flywheel on it first. I bet you can make some fire.

 

[NathanY]

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Was that motor electric shift? If so, if that little switch thingy ( <-- proper name) in the control box is not right, there will be no spark. I think.

 

[rons boat]

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I forgot, but yes you may be on to something. I always hot wire these things with clip leads and bypass all that stuff. I hope I haven't caused you to forget looking at the wiring diagram. I am sorry I can't look this up as I gave my manual away last year. Somebody look it up and see what needs to be powered up to get that system going.

 

[lpkirby]

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I have scanned in my wire digram if you want to see it and help. Please give me your email and Ill send it to you. Thanks <br /><br />Leon<br /><br />If you dont want to post it on here email me at lpkirby@ev1.net<br /><br />Thanks again

 

[lpkirby]

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I dont know if you have to be a member of yahoo or not but I created a photo organizer and put the wiring diagram in it<br /><br /> http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lpkirby/lst?.dir=/1968+65hp+Evinrude&.view=t <br /><br />or this link I am not sure which will get you there. It remembers my password so I cant check it..<br /> http://photos.yahoo.com/lpkirby

 

[rons boat]

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I am a member of SBC, Yahoo , prodigy, but I can't get on on my first try so: I will e-mail you my hotmail address.

 

[lpkirby]

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Ron I Just sent it to you....

 

[lpkirby]

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see if this works<br /><br />

 

[rons boat]

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I am anxious to get those ignition modules tested so lets power the module up with clip lead 12VDC + on the input of the module coming normally from the ignition switch and see if we have spark on one of the plugs. Yes the wire comming from the points must open and close to do the triggering and they may be need to be cleaned. You see that one wire coming out from the points and going thru a connection into the module. You can temporaly disconnect this wire to check the points with a light tester or Ohm meter to ground to see if they or doing there thing. If that is ok, you are looking for spark on one of the cycl as the rotor is looking at only one at a time. It is a dual breaker system and I can't read the diagram that well but I don't think you have capacitors across the points since you are activating the amp module instead of running the coil direct. If you get shocked during any of the exercise then good news everything is working.

 

[lpkirby]

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ok ROn I am thinking and looking at the manual trying to figure out what you are telling me to do.. Ill get back shortly. From your email, one point is open and one is closed. Is that how it should be. There is nothing between the point on the diagram.<br /><br />Am I going to need the battery hooked up? Also two of my spark plug wires broke as I was unscrewing them. Where do you suggest I get another set from? I had Some problems once I removed the flywheel.<br /><br />There were two wires that ran under the tower shaft arm that went into breaker point area. One was a ground and the other goes to the Amplifier. There were both broke and corroded. I went to NAPA and got new connectors and rewired them. So now they are intact, however; the wiring harness was in such bad shape, I also removed it and will be rebuilding it myself. I also removed the Amplifier because there were 2 broke wires and I will have it finished by tomorrow. I can only splice in on it because the wires go into the amplifier.<br /><br />Ok I am going to go thru the wiring diagram with your instructions now and see if I get it..<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />Leon