Re: PETA INSULTS
JasonJ States, (about OMR's rant):
While this does have some nuggets of validity to it, you cannot give this example while ignoring the fact that the conservatives are doing the same thing, just with different means.
No JasonJ: My point is valid: Period. Conservatives are fighting for oxygen: no doubt, but they are not doing the "same thing", so I can ignore what I like to ignore while making a valid point.
There is a significant amount of folks on the right that are as extreme, using church and forms of media to forward their agenda as well.
JasonJ: There is a significant difference between a church that one voluntarily attends and the pubilc schools where the kids must attend by the force of law, (unless one has resources to home school, or send to private school). The Libs and Dems fight tooth and nail to preserve this poisonous monopoly, that performs VERY POORLY by any rational measure. There is also a huge difference between the combined power of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYT, WP, CT, LAT et al, and all of a fairly new thing: Talk radio. I know the Libs are worried about the trends, (as a former stock broker I'd rather be short MSM then long as well). There are lots of Conservatives that may be mean, but nothing like the blatent facism of the left: just look at Universities: JasonJ!
There is a savage, massive amount of hate that is voiced against the left.
Dr. Savage, (Weiner is a Jewish name Jason), does spew hate, but he is hardly Christian, and he spews it at the right as much as the left. I don't consider him anything but a "shock jock", very much in the minority.
This would be fine if it wasn't voiced by "good Christians". I often wonder, just what does God think of hypocritical people who spew hate and stand on pedestals of superiority when the reality is they are no better, and are not doing anything any different than those they hate?
Where do ya get the smoke Jason? Have no idea what you are talking about here.
I'm not taking sides here, I never do. I just like to point out to people that they should take a long, hard look at what they are saying before they say it.
Jason: If you can't see where you are taking sides I can't help you. I can see you try to ride the fence, but you took a side on this post my man.
Also, don't for a minute think I agree with organizations like PETA or Right To Life groups. These groups are extreme, and care little for the subject of their cause. They only care about forwarding their agendas.
Big difference between killing animals and babies Jason. Some, (very small minority), right to life groups are extreme. PETA is more then extreme: it is insane. Jason: MORAL equivalence does not wash here!
My personal favorite is when people say these activities are Gods will. Who are these people to say what Gods will is? Going to church does not qualify a person to speak for God, or act for God. It is that pious arrogance and the disgraceful acts of some in the name of God that drove me away from organized religion. Don't mistake that for a lack of belief in God, I just don't believe in the distortion, selfishness and greed known as man made religion.
I agree with ya here, don't like organized religion much myself: but I'm a Christian, (sorry Bro Haut). The religion that does the most of what you speak is the religon o' peace not Christianity Jason. Libs HATE all religion especially Christianity Jason. Again I reject the moral equivilence part of your rant.
And yes, TV does cast men as bumbling goofs at times, but if a person watches these shows, the women usually end up looking like goofs and eating crow for berating their men.
It is more then TV Jason. The Fems drill the man hating stuff in public schools and Universities too.
I'm not saying these shows are indicative of reality, but really, in the real world of marriage, does anyone think anyone is living like the Cleavers any more?
Not exactly like the Cleavers, but men are important Jason.
Is anyone here saying women are supposed to be relegated back to being pieces of property that cooks and cleans and keeps their mouth shut? Go ask your wives that and see how well that works for ya...
Jason: who said that li'l "nugget"? Not me.
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Jason. I understand some of your points, but you are just as wrong in this rant as you were about your taxes. If you made any taxable income since George Bushs' tax cuts you got a break. A li'l coffee smellin' and drinkin' is in order my friend. I respect your polite maner, and I thank you for your service to the country we both love. That said: you are wrong here. Respectfully JR
