Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

smokeonthewater

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

.....Smoke, I agree with you 100% that I could save alot of time and money by finding something like you pointed out. But for me, that would take all the fun out of it......

Very well, carry on and enjoy your hobby.;)
 

YZ165

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

If you insist on using that trailer, just get one of these.....

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courtt79

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Have you ever looked into getting a sliding extension for your trailer? This lengthens the trailer tongue with in turns keeps your truck out of the water. In Hawaii almost everyone uses that type of setup. Most are 4ft min. When your getting ready at the ramp to launch, you unpin the extension and slide it out then lock it. While your washing your boat, unpin the extension and slide it back in then lock it. Look at the pics, maybe it will help to explain.

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jspansel

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Stubborn or not, get a boat trailer! You are asking for trouble if you have to go that far in... I never even get my rear tires wet hardly. Getting the front is extremely dangerous, especially with a 2wd, rwd vehicle. You are asking for help, but do not want to do the right thing. ??? You WILL sink your truck.
 

bowfisher8967

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Ok point(s) taken. Anyways here are the pics. Couldnt getem posted sooner as i've been sick. PTDC0032 (640x379).jpgPTDC0033 (640x189).jpgPTDC0034 (640x298).jpgPTDC0037 (640x332).jpg What do you think? Honestly, I know you all speak from experience (mostly), and its starting to wear down on my stubbornness, probably for the better. So i'll start searching CL and putting some money away. In the mean time i'll probably just use a heartier shove off the trailer as uncle willie suggested. Aint no way ima quit fishin until then! After all, I just finished my carb rebuild and this outboard's purr has never sounded sweeter. :)
 

bowfisher8967

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Oh and I guess I was a bit off when I said the boat was 2 1/2' off the ground. Its more like 22 inches or whatever the ruler in my picture says. Still alot maybe.... who knows.
 

smokeonthewater

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

ok this MIGHT not be so bad... now lets see what we can do here... it looks like you have shackles at BOTH ends of your springs..... on the front they look shiney and new.... If this is correct, take the front ones back off because they don't belong there.... next... is it a trailer axle or a truck axle.... if it's a trailer axle (with 5 on 4.5" lug pattern) and it has no brakes then get some dinky 8" trailer wheels with 4.80x8 tires for it ... these two mods should drop it a foot. Next buy a can of spray silicone and next time you launch the boat, come back to the ramp in a couple hours after the bunks have dried.... spray em down with the silicone and go back out fishing..... when you load your boat just back in till the last third of the bunks are under water.... the boat will slip on so easy you might slam into the winch post if not careful.
 

bowfisher8967

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

ok this MIGHT not be so bad... now lets see what we can do here... it looks like you have shackles at BOTH ends of your springs..... on the front they look shiney and new.... If this is correct, take the front ones back off because they don't belong there.... next... is it a trailer axle or a truck axle.... if it's a trailer axle (with 5 on 4.5" lug pattern) and it has no brakes then get some dinky 8" trailer wheels with 4.80x8 tires for it ... these two mods should drop it a foot. Next buy a can of spray silicone and next time you launch the boat, come back to the ramp in a couple hours after the bunks have dried.... spray em down with the silicone and go back out fishing..... when you load your boat just back in till the last third of the bunks are under water.... the boat will slip on so easy you might slam into the winch post if not careful.

I only have shackles on the front. Are they necessary at all? And yeah that would be cool if i could find some smaller wheels with the same lug pattern. If not, this mission is over cap'n.
 

smokeonthewater

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

yep you need the shackles.... some springs just slide in a channel under the frame but those need to have shackles..... usually they are on the rear and yours are at a pretty steep angle but they may be ok for your use... getting a boat trailer is still probably your best option
 

chriscraft254

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Although 21 inches is high for your boat length, you still should not be having to back your truck into the water. Put some silocone spray on the bunks and just back it in until the bunks are just under the water at the stern. I'm guessing that would put the trailer tires about 2/3 of the way in the water.

Trailer height can be an advantage because when you are pulling the boat out, the boat is lifted further out of the water, not allowing currents to play much of a factor. This is one reason I like roller trailers better, they lift thee boat up and out of the water as you are loaading it.

Like smoke said though, get smaller wheels and tires. Probably will want a drop hitch if you do that and also I hope your not towing that with the trailer wheel stand down. Your asking for trouble if you are. Good luck.
 

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

3" lowering blocks are 20 bucks at Autozone. Worth looking at IMHO.
 

Silver Eagle

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Did you ever just back up fast at the water line ,slam he on the brakes and launch the boat. make sure you unhook it first.
 

bonz_d

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Oh and I guess I was a bit off when I said the boat was 2 1/2' off the ground. Its more like 22 inches or whatever the ruler in my picture says. Still alot maybe.... who knows.

After looking at your pictures your rig doesn't look any higher or lower than the way my Lund sits on the Spartan trailer I have. The way it sits on the trailer everything looks level. Smaller wheels may help some but my opinion is that the trailer is too short.

With my Lund/trailer setup connected to the truck and the engine down I still have about 18/20" of ground clearance. I launch at a very shallow ramp. The tongue on my trailer is extra long and I have yet to have to get the truck tires wet. But then my trailer also tilts.

I may be wrong but I don't think a smaller diameter wheel is really going to help much.
 

bowfisher8967

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

Did you ever just back up fast at the water line ,slam he on the brakes and launch the boat. make sure you unhook it first.

Yes, but with a 15 inch transom and a heavy 4-stroke water tends to pour in before the floating happens. I do have a luxury set of problems :)
 

fishrdan

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

I think the trailer needs some bigger tires :D

Seriously though, I'd replace the tires with something smaller. What it the height of the current tires? The 4.80-12 tires on my jon boat trailer are a bit over 19" tall, and that's where the bottom of the hull sits too. It sits a bit high and my boat doesn't float off easily, but I need the ground clearance for rough roads. I can still park with the car/truck door on dry pavement and launch/load the boat though. I put some WD-40 on the bunks and it slides off easier now. (I used WD-40 as it's supposed to attract fish where I haven't ever heard anything about silicone spray attracting fish :p)

Before doing anything, I would see how much lower the trailer needs to be, to float the boat while not submerging the entire truck. IE: where is the water level on the boat when the truck is backed in at an acceptable distance (drivers door still on dry pavement), then where is the water level when it floats off. Back the trailer in and measure it's depth with the door still on dry land, then back in again where the boat starts floating, pull out and measure it again.

The bumper hitch might be a problem as you can't drop the tongue as you could with a receiver hitch. Even if you put on smaller tires, the front of the trailer will still be too high. A bumper mounted hitch receiver would solve this, but I wouldn't trust one of those to tow much more than a small boat. $60 at HF would get you the receiver hitch, ball mount and ball. Another $100+ at HF would get you a smaller set of tires too. (I was skeptical of HF tires :rolleyes:, but have 3-4 years on my 4.80-12's and they have done great...)

Oh yeah, I agree with the others that say the shackles need to be on the rear of the spring, not the front. Can you unbolt the spring hangers, slide out the axle/spring assy, rotate it 180*, then bolt it back in the right way? Your trailer kind of looks like a HF trailer, and I know that would be possible with mine. (after I cut off the extra welds I put on the spring hangers.)
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Pickup truck drowning at launch ramp?

I've looked at your pictures and your problem is obvious--you have a cargo trailer, not a boat trailer. Go look at boat trailers and observe how the boat sits between, not above, the wheels to some extent. No wonder your vehicle is going in.

Get a boat trailer, or get an amphibious vehicle. Tires stay dry.
 
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