Please tell me about FICHT

dicktaber

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Is this direct-injection?
I am looking to mount a V6 outboard in an automobile. As such, the physical orientation (mounting angle) of the engine, and elimination of carburetors is just one issue. A real, orientation-is-no-object FI would be a good start.

If you have any recommendations, please share.
 

Marc III

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

Are they bringing back Junkyard Wars or what?

If you are hoping to power a car with an outboard engine, there are multiple reasons why it would not be practical.
 

dicktaber

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

I did not ask for your opinion on why I should not do it.

Please contribute if you can, otherwise, please move on.
Thank you.
 

4.0l sahara

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

Yes it's a direct injection motor.:D
 

CampionGuy

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

Just out of curiosity, would this be for a dwarf replica class race car?
 

angus63

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

If you are planning on using a mid to late 90's V6 150 or 175 hp, be sure the updates are complete. Also be sure to wear a fire suit and have an extinguisher handy. If you search FICHT on this sight you may understand the concern. FICHT technology on OMC motors faded away faster than "New Coke" for a reason.
Be Safe and Good luck....
 

kissbass

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

The ficht technology is still being used on the NEW e-tec's there's a differance in the way the solenoid works but is basically the same technology.
 

HighTrim

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

The FICHT and E-Tec systems are very similar, although BRP would probably not like to have them associated. My knowledge of the system is limited,lerned from some of the minds on here, and others on here will be able to elaborate.

The FICHT system is a direct injection system meaning that the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber when the piston is close to the top of its stroke. This concept is great for fuel economy, power, and emissions, but there are technical challenges with injecting fuel into a hot, highly compressed combustion chamber.

The Ficht system injects the fuel by energizing a solenoid that serves as a plunger. The plunger pushes on a column of fuel that is piped to an injector. So, the order of operations is that an electric current is sent to a solenoid which causes a plunger to push fuel into the combusion chamber. The plunger is returned to its original position by a spring. When the plunger is pulled back to its "rest" position, it is re-filled with fuel ready for the next cycle.

The big difference between Ficht & E-tec is that there is no spring in the E-tec system. The plunger is returned to its "rest" position by reversing the current through the solenoid which makes the plunger shuttle in the opposite direction. Not really a big difference.

The reversing polarity design does have several advantages to be sure, including the fact that the plunger can return to position faster, and it is quieter than the old spring system.

The E-tec system allows greater control of the solenoid that the Ficht system did, in fact my understanding is that during some running speeds and loads, the computer does not allow the plunger to travel its entire stroke, i.e. the current is reversed pulling the solenoid back. This allows the computer to not only control when the fuel is injected, but how much fuel is injected.

I suspect (but do not know as fact) that the biggest advantage of E-tec over Ficht is the fact that lessons learned during the development of the technology were applied and the bugs of the system were worked out. All that being said, Im not quite sure that your idea is a feasible one.
 

Silvertip

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Re: Please tell me about FICHT

FICHT didn't fade away -- it has morphed into a superb system that is now called E-Tec. Yes it is direct injection. And yes, there were issues with certain of the early versions. Keep in mind that Optimax and Ficht both had teething problems as this technology was fairly radical for outboards.
 
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