Project Bilgeliner Progresses...

[CCrew]

Motor comes out tomorrow, but I'm making some headway..Wife now think's I'm certifiably nuts for buying this boat, but she has said that she knows when I'm done it'll be as nice as a new one. Glad she has faith!<br /><br />Bayliner sure does do a good job of foaming the hull, don't they?<br />

<br /><br />At least this is indeed a rebuilt motor, although I have my suspicions it's a car motor..<br />

<br /><br />This is a GOOD piece of deck..<br /><br />

<br /><br />Geez, I'm sure making a mess!<br /><br />

<br /><br />I'm not going to say anything yet about the stringers, because sure enough if I do, I'll find one in tatters, but let's just say i'm "cautiously optimistic!"

 

[jomac]

Re: Project Bilgeliner Progresses...

Well! Looks about normal for most production boats, I'am on my second Bayliner now (personal that is) love there dry smooth ride but, there QC lacks a little to be desired. You MIGHT be allright on the stringers look for bad spots at intersections around the bulkheads areas(crosspieces) Good Luck

 

[CCrew]

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"You MIGHT be allright on the stringers look for bad spots at intersections around the bulkheads areas(crosspieces)"<br /><br />Yup. Found them today. Going to have to do a little digging to find out just how bad. One that appears the worse still has the factory staples in it and they won't turn loose, so it's nowhere near totally soft. <br /><br />Good question arises here though... Does an area such as that that necessitate replacing the whole stringer, or is it acceptable that it be repaired (CPES/Epoxy filler)?? Area does not appear heaviliy involved at all, and there's still *plenty* of solid wood there. Thanks!<br /><br />-Roger

 

[Realgun]

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Ccrew I believe I will be using the CPES or that Ethelyene glyco borax solution to kill the rot on my stringers. I will say that they seem solid as I took the boat out for a trail run twice <br /> just to see what if anything the engine or boat needed. My stringers are dark where the plywood was attached but seems solid. Why they use staples in 1/2 plywood? Anyway my issue is the keel area near the front and the roving that I need to fill in with epoxy. Keep it comeing as its helping me.

 

[Bondo]

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Wife now think's I'm certifiably nuts

I'm Pretty Sure, She's Right....!!<br /><br />I Tried to warn you...<br />BTW, I took a Butt Chewing about the same comments that you're using as Topic/Thread Names....<br /><br />Good Luck...

 

[catfish1]

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come on bondo, i would'nt exactly call em butt chewings.

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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I still say what I said all along ...<br /><br />Bilgeliners are good if you are going to gut it ANYWAY, cause they are a sound hull design, (too shallow for my taste, but BAYliners indeed) <br /><br />for all intents and purposes, glass is glass is glass, its all bout the way its put together<br /><br />and it seems to be the case that, well, these pictures speak thousands of words<br /><br />but once yer done, once the approporiate amounts of resin and glass have been laid, good treated wood installed where needed, and the proper amount of foam installed, voila, a solid built to last boat, that looks nice, rides nice AND has a rebuilt motor.<br /><br />keep goin, yer doin great!

 

[CCrew]

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I dunno Castaway Ray... I'm not exactly a "pro" at this and there are some spots that I think even I could have laid the hull up better. I tend to agree to a point though, when it's done, most everything that made it the cheap POS that it was will be history.. Subsequently it may be a fairly nice boat. <br /><br />Bondo, next time you call it by that name, if someone takes a shot at ya just grab me.. I'll back you up! <br /><br />It's basically a bare hull at the moment with just the stringers in, they too will probably be gone by this weekend. Motor beds are pulpwood, so I think I'll be Seacasting them for some rigidity. I have a sample of that here... Stuff's pretty impressive. Has good solidity to it with just enough flex to make it not brittle. I'm actually debating doing the stringers in it too, but I think that'll be an expensive proposition. <br /><br />-Roger

 

[Bondo]

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most everything that made it the cheap POS that it was will be history..

Motor beds are pulpwood, so I think I'll be Seacasting them for some rigidity

Come on Roger....... <br />Grind them out,+ Replace them with Hardwood.. White Oak is a pretty Good rot resistent wood.....<br />Tamarack is a super dense softwood that's Also Very Rot resistent....<br /><br />Don't go and ReBilgeliner it...!!<br /><br />

come on bondo, i would'nt exactly call em butt chewings. <br /><br />--------------------<br />catfish

Ok catfish..... How about a Severe Butt Nibbling..!!!! LOL...<br />I Know there are a few Bilgeliner Owners who Really Don't want to hear My Opinion...........

 

[CCrew]

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"Grind them out,+ Replace them with Hardwood"<br /><br />Probably be doing just that. Pulled one yesterday, and the other is cut, but not out yet. Stringer's are only 1x's, think I should go with something more stout? <br /><br />Bilgeliner does nothing to attach them to the hull.. Not bedded in at all. Just placed in place, then matted over. Slice the mat at the stringer hull joint and they lift right out. <br /><br />It's interesting the way they lay the hull up. Gelcoat, then a layer of light mat to stop the printthrough, then a layer of woven. They then crudely fill the strake intentations on the inner hull with wood strips (almost like 1/2 quarter round) and then place the motor beds, stringers and bulheads in. Hit it with a layer of mat over the front 2/3's of the stringers, then chopper glass the daylights out of it. <br /><br />Lots of air pockets where they put the wood strips in, which makes it fun...and since it's only a layer of chopper glass away from the outside world, makes it fun not to sand into those strips when trying to fair where the stringers and bulkheads are..<br /><br />-Roger

 

[Boomyal]

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Isn't the motor mounting material just a beefed up extention of the main stringers?

 

[CCrew]

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"Isn't the motor mounting material just a beefed up extention of the main stringers?"<br /><br />Not in mine.. They're actually 4" x 8" solid wood blocks, approx 12" long, mounted to the keel side of the stringers approx 16" forward of the transom..<br /><br />-Roger