Prop Diameter

SummitPower

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What effect does prop diameter have on the performance of a boat on both hole shot and top end?
 

Dhadley

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Re: Prop Diameter

Lots.<br /><br />Very, very basicaly it increases blade area and allows you to run a higher X dimension. That is where you gain performance in not only holeshot but top end as well.<br /><br />It's much, much more than that but thats the basics.<br /><br />Good luck!
 

sho305

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Re: Prop Diameter

The diameter gives more bite for a holeshot because the whole prop is bigger. I think it may slow you down though as the outer part of the blade goes faster with a larger diameter and makes more drag. Seems that they use a prop big enough to holeshot and not blowout for a given boat/weight/size. More blades do about the same: better bite in holeshot and a few less mph top speed. There must be a relation to large diameter and slower shaft speeds as well; and small fast spinning motors with little props.
 

Dhadley

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Thats correct to a point. If you have a prop set up perfectly and go to the same style prop with a larger diameter and dont raise the motor it may very well slow down. <br /><br />Same with a 3 blade vs four blade. The perfect set up for a given 3 blade is not necessairly the perfect set up for the same style in a 4 blade version. 9 times out of 10 once you get a 4 blade set up right its faster than a 3 blade. Out of the hole and on top end.<br /><br />Good luck!
 

bmurray

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Re: Prop Diameter

After investigating props for the last 2 months, I've been informed that 1/2" in diameter is equal to 1" in pitch as far as rpm's are concerned.
 

Jango

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The Same Pitch 4 Blade will have a better Hole Shot but SLOWER Top End than a 3 Blade (period)
 

Dhadley

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Go to a fishing tounament or a race and check out what the fastest boats use. You may be suprised.
 

Forktail

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You can't consider prop diameter alone. The diameter, together with pitch and the rpm of the outboard, is how the prop (and boat) performs.<br /><br />A change in pitch will always have a greater affect on speed and holeshot than a similar change in diameter, kind of what bmurray said.<br /><br />I like to think of pitch as the component that controls power, and diameter as the component that controls rpm...or speed. But you must have a combination of both for maximum performance. <br /><br />Remember, outboards don't have variable or automatic transmissions. And they don't have variable pitch props (like an airplane). So the object is to get maximum speed for your load exactly where the outboard rpm makes its maximum power. <br /><br />For example, maximizing hole shot always sacrafices top end speed because power is usually obtained by decreasing pitch size (and slightly increasing diameter). In other words the outboard stays in low gear and will most likely over-rev on step at full throttle. <br /><br />Maximizing top speed usually sacrafices holeshot because speed is usually achieved by increasing pitch size (and slightly decreasing diameter). In other words the outboard is stuck in high gear and most likely can't obtain power quickly upon accelleration.<br /><br />If an outboard makes its maximum power at 5500 rpm, then that is exactly where you want to maximize your speed for your given load. You must try different props until you find the most efficient prop.<br /><br />The difference in 3 vs. 4-bladed props depend on many factors and your use of the boat. Usually a 4-bladed prop increases bow lift and enhances cornering and stability in high horsepower, high speed boats. A 4-bladed prop does not necessarily increase speed, but rather enhances the characteristics of the boat at that speed.<br /><br />There's cupped props, cambered props, 4-blade, 3-blade, stainless, aluminum, composite, etc. etc. One in a particular size will work the best for your boat. Unfortunately, you need to try them to find which one works the best....and they are very expensive. <br /><br />So for the average Joe, factory props are usually a compromise which includes good solid performance under most conditions. For those who want to split hairs and pick up a mph or two, its just a matter of money. :)
 

Jango

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Re: Prop Diameter

Prop Diameter as well as number of Blades determines surface area and PROP DRAG. A given surface area is required to propel a Boat with a certain effeciency (hopefully 90% plus On submerged prop boats). In other words, Diameter (or Blade Area) is determined by Resistance to movement or in simpler terms "The Weight of The Boat". Pitch is more a function of Horse Power. As more Horse Power Is added, pitch can be increased and Speed increases.<br />Prop Riding Racing hulls, use much lower surface area props (usually two blade)and rely on pitch and RPM. The "Rooster Tail" on a Hydro is actually LOST Energy (Low effeciency) but allows higher RPMS and Pitch to compensate. <br />The Props I have seen in recent years on Racing Boats, are about the same as when I began Racing (mainly Inboard Runabouts and Hydros) 40 years ago. <br />Hope this helps to answer the original question.
 

suzukidave

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Dhadley, I've heard people say that but I've never seen it in practice -- I'm no expert but I've always heard 4 blades run slower or no better and people buy'em for control and hole shot or because they look cool (see 5 blades). Are you talking about a race set up where the prop is half out of the water, or are you talking about joe blow 17' fish boat with a 90 hp merc on the back? If the latter, what is the magic formula for getting a 4 blade to outpull a 3 blade?
 

bmurray

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I will try to keep this short. My friend has an 18' Checkmate with a 175 Merc with a QuickSilver 14x19 prop. Turning 6000 fully loaded with 4 people. We wanted to increase speed and drop the R's. He was steered to a Ballistic 14 3/8x21. Now he can't even pull up an average size skier (not at all) Gained somewhere around 5 mph and handles great. <br /><br /> So we are now returning to the local dealer. Then I called Brian at Power Tech props, he suggested a prop for better bow as well as stern lift on this boat. It was a 15x18 special 4 blade they offer. He said with the extra lift from this prop top end will be better than the 19" as well as the great hole shot. It will also drop the R's a bit due to the design. (I guess cupping)
 
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