Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

Wimperdink

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Anyone have an extra 14 x 15 17 spline prop that they would consider trading for 14 x 19? I'm not much wanting to spend $100+ on a prop to try though i'm sure I need it. :D <br /><br />Not hitting my target rpm range :( <br /><br />Used boat came with 14 x 19, now using a 14 x 17 and wanting to try a 14 x 15.<br /><br />AQ125 w/an outdrive. p.s. I remember looking at a sheet that I found from here a long time ago with a bunch of pictures of volvo penta outdrives... anyone see that lately? I misplaced it. :) I think I remember mine being a 280T but not sure.
 

trebor0301

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

What size is your boat? I have a 19ft.with a AQ125A---270 outdrive.The wot rpms with a 14x17 prop are hitting 5000.With a 14x19 I was only getting about 4300 rpm.TOO LOW ! I think if I were to put on a 14x15 I would blow the engine.Is it possible you have another problem that is keeping your rpms down?
 

Wimperdink

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

mines an 18' bayliner capri.... with the 14 x 17 i'm still only reaching about 3300 rpms with a speed of about 29 mph gps & speedo (amazing an accurate speedo)<br /><br />I'm starting to wonder if I'm not carrying a load of waterlogged foam under the deck. Anywhere I can find the Dry Weight of an 85 18' bayliner capri i/0? I'd take it down to the local scales after I run it out of gas and weigh it empty and see how close it is.<br /><br />The motor seems to run great aside from not reaching the appropriate rpm's under a load. It'll scream right up there when not in gear.
 

Wimperdink

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

the numbers on my outdrive are 850676 8413 Can anyone help with identification of which outdrive this is?
 

craze1cars

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

You can find very approximate dry weight #'s at www.nada.com, but they are notoriously inaccurate so of little use. And even if it was close, dry weight means a lot more than gas in the tank. Water in cooling passages, battery, engine oil, outdrive oil, grease, weight of your trailer. Too much to consider, so I wouldn't bother trying to figure out if you think you're close or not on weight. To check for waterlogging, Just drill a few small holes inside your lower transom area and engine mount areas. When wet mulch comes out on the drill bit instead of dry wood, get ready to spend some time on the "Boat restoration and building" forum. If it comes out dry, say a hearty thank-you to the old boat gods and then fill the holes you drilled with epoxy or poly resin, no harm done.<br /><br />Since you're at 3,300, something is wrong, and the problem is not your prop. I'd guess you need to be spinning somewhere between 4,200 and 4,800 rpm, higher in that range is better. Find out the rpm range of your motor. Regardless, if you're at 3,300 with a 14x17, then going to a 14x15 will bring you to about 3,650. Still way too low.<br /><br />Before you do anything, check the tach for accuracy with a tune-up tach or something else to reference with. If it's close then check to see that your throttle plate is opening all the way at WOT, then check compression, test your fuel pump for proper operating pressure and replace the fuel filter, then do a complete tuneup (new plugs, wires, points, set base timing, check timing advance operation, set idle mixture), then check engine/drive alignment, while you're doing that check your gimbal bearing. Somewhere in that process you'll likely find or correct the problem.<br /><br />Don't waste any money on another prop, I'm confident that something here is wrong and needs to be fixed. Aren't used boats fun? :) <br /><br />I'd suggest you start posting some questions on the Mercruiser/Volvo repair thread of this forum, you'll get more responses from people who fix these motors and drives for a living. I also highly recommend you purchase a shop manual for this rig to help you through everything.
 

Dunaruna

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

The 270 had the exhaust exiting from an adjustable trimtab just above the prop, the 280 exited at the same place but it was a fixed exhaust and it looked like a big 'smiley face' openning, sort of like a whale feeding - make sense? 'T' means it has hydraulic trim.<br /><br />As a general rule, the 15" pitch would suit the 4banger but i agree with craze1 that more investigation is needed.
 

Helstrm

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

I beleive you are running a 270 OD. WOT should be 4800 according to the manual. 29 is the top speed of that setup though. I would bet your tach is not working right. I have a 14x19 right now and I need to drop to a 14x17. I found a place in GA that makes props for our boats and he can get you one cupped and shipped for $168<br />WHat I would do is get a 14x15 cupped. You will get a better hole shot and and the cupped will perform at WOT like a 17 so you wont lose top speed. I get 29mph with 2 adults, 2 kids and a cooler with a 19p
 

Helstrm

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

Oh and the manual says 15p or 17p on our size boat with the AQ125/270d
 

Wimperdink

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

Went for a cruise this afternoon. Myself and wife, full load of tools, fishing gear, and cooler, and whatever other equipment ie anchor, extra battery and jump box etc etc, onboard got up to 3700 rpms 30 mph. Planes out no problem with smart tabs and the 14 x 17 prop.<br /><br />Last time out had 5 people on board was at 3400 rpms and 27 28 mph. <br /><br />I'm running the 280 outdrive Not 280T... Got the "whale feeding exhaust" and a much smaller adjustable trim tab above the prop than the 270. Not hydraulic trim. Small weak electric trim. <br /><br />Gave up the idea of weighing... extra water in foam couldnt weigh much more than an extra kid on board so it shouldnt affect rpms by that much. <br /><br />With the advice of everyone here i'm going to try another tach... sounds like i'm hitting the proper speed range for the setup I have and the engine sounds great.<br /><br />I've replaced spark plugs, wires, points, coil, condensor, adjusted timing, adjusted idle mixture, Compression is between 150 and 152 on all 4, perfect adjustment on points,<br />and yep I have a manual. (well as much as a clymers can tell me anyway)<br /><br />Need to check fuel pressure, replace fuel filter, and check tach. :) <br /><br />Helstrm I did see the 15 or 17 p reccomendations on michigan wheel site... thats why I wanted to try that next... <br /><br />I'll try a diff tach and if thats what it is, no problem.. if my tach is correct guess its back to the drawing board.<br /><br />I perfer an older boat no matter what kind of time they take to work on as I like a project as much as I like floating and fishing. Older usually means "paid for" and thats worth its weight in gold<br /><br />Appreciate all the help here folks and sorry if the thread turned from a trade to something that should have been posted in engines. If its a bad tach issue, I'll not be sorry I posted here :D Thanks again.<br /><br />Oh and if anyone still wants to trade a 14" x 19" for a 14" x 15" i'm still all for it... would rather have the 14" x 15" for backup anyway... boat doesnt like the 19p prop very much.
 

Wimperdink

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

Learn something new everyday.. turns out I just never measured my boat... it was advertised as an 18', and the title says 1950 BR... nada tells me its a 19' how bout that..
 

craze1cars

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Re: Prop Swap? 14 x 19 for a 14 x 15 Volvo Penta

Originally posted by Wimperdink:<br /> extra water in foam couldnt weigh much more than an extra kid on board so it shouldnt affect rpms by that much. <br /><br />
My last waterlogged restoration on an 18 foot runabout caused the boat to lose more than 600 lbs. Not uncommon for foam and wood in the structure to hold between 50 and 100 gallons on such a boat. Mind was a 1992 model that ran and felt good on the water, but after the restoration it went from good to absolutely outstanding! Not to mention the added peace of mind...<br /><br />But don't get too scared by that, I agree that since it's hopping on plane easy, maybe you just have a tach problem and hope for your sake it's that simple. But your easy planing may be the result of smart tabs crutching it up. Regardless, I wouldn't feel safe on any 20 year old boat if I didn't check it carefully for a waterlogged and rotted structure, so I still recommend you check that out to make sure it's a safe boat for you and your family.<br /><br />Good luck, and enjoy the boat!
 
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