Public support of a President

bobingardner

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I have no idea what that means. Sounds to me like that doublespeak you were talking about.
 

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Liberalism is actually just the opposite. Liberalism to me means the ends justify the means. The arogance of the liberal mindset defines whatever they think is correct, absolute. Their views are not to be challenged, less you be called a racist or biggot or a member of the vast right wing conspiracy. To that comment has anyone found any evidence of this vast right wing conspiracy??? Why don't the educated elite challenge this intensional distortion. Yep, the ends justify the means.<br /><br />Why is it OK for Ted Kennedy to say the absurd things he has consistantly said for the past 15 years? The ends justify the means... And he lives in a district that hasn't the sense to vote outside party lines. Junk science, radical environmentalism, socialized healthcare, the 9th circuit court, affirmative action, graduated tax structures, separation of church and state, redistribution of wealth, and on and on and on. What do you think that liberals think of the common man, they think he is an idiot and only they have the education and insight to direct the country and those pesky laws and constitution keep getting in the way. Why do you think most of the champions of the left award themselves titles? Doctor, Professor, Senator, Congressman, etc. A shingle that gives them credibility to the weak minded. Want to upset a liberal simply present facts. Then you will be called a racist, capitalist pig, fascist, biggot, you know the list, and they can claim moral superiority. <br /><br />In reality it is the ultimate form of condescention. If you agree with a liberal position, great, but there is never any reason to have your humanity or intellegence questioned by disagreeing with their positions. Remember, this country is supported by the common man, and there is no monopoly on good ideas and creativity. Think for yourself, educate yourself and question everything, you can then speak with authority and vote with confidence.
 

bobingardner

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<br />POINTER94<br />Master Chief Petty Officer<br />Member # 34158<br /><br />- posted May 13, 2004 10:57 PMMay 13, 2004 10:57 PM Profile for POINTER94 Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote Liberalism is actually just the opposite. Liberalism to me means the ends justify the means. The arogance of the liberal mindset defines whatever they think is correct, absolute. Their views are not to be challenged, less you be called a racist or biggot or a member of the vast right wing conspiracy. To that comment has anyone found any evidence of this vast right wing conspiracy??? Why don't the educated elite challenge this intensional distortion. Yep, the ends justify the means.<br />
Are you sure your talking about liberals? I've heard liberals say the same thing about consertives. Who's right?<br /><br />
<br />Why is it OK for Ted Kennedy to say the absurd things he has consistantly said for the past 15 years? The ends justify the means... And he lives in a district that hasn't the sense to vote outside party lines. Junk science, radical environmentalism, socialized healthcare, the 9th circuit court, affirmative action, graduated tax structures, separation of church and state, redistribution of wealth, and on and on and on.<br />
I can't speak for the past fifteen years, and you forgot chapaqui**** (I have no idea how to spell it), but I can't support his most recent comments except to say that behind the partisan crap there's a bit of truth.<br /><br />
<br /> What do you think that liberals think of the common man, they think he is an idiot and only they have the education and insight to direct the country and those pesky laws and constitution keep getting in the way.<br />
Seems to be the one philosphy shared by both the the republican and democrate parties.<br /><br />
<br /> Why do you think most of the champions of the left award themselves titles? Doctor, Professor, Senator, Congressman, etc. A shingle that gives them credibility to the weak minded. <br />
Or, it could be they earned a college degree that bestows the title.<br /><br />
<br />Want to upset a liberal simply present facts. Then you will be called a racist, capitalist pig, fascist, biggot, you know the list, and they can claim moral superiority.<br />
There are many posts on this board that present the "facts". Please post a link to one post that calls the author a pig.<br /><br />
<br />In reality it is the ultimate form of condescention. If you agree with a liberal position, great, but there is never any reason to have your humanity or intellegence questioned by disagreeing with their positions. Remember, this country is supported by the common man, and there is no monopoly on good ideas and creativity. Think for yourself and question everything, you can then speak with authority and vote with confidence. <br />
Seems like kind of a liberal philosphy. Are you sure your not a liberal comrade?
 

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Want to upset a liberal simply present facts. Then you will be called a racist, capitalist pig, fascist, biggot, you know the list, and they can claim moral superiority. <br />
I've found that works on both sides of the fence.. :rolleyes: Of course, what do I know? Ya know, as a democrat, being that I'm a godless socialist communist POS, and all that...<br /><br />
Think for yourself, educate yourself and question everything, you can then speak with authority and vote with confidence.
Better be careful there.. The Republican party does'nt like people thinking for themselves.. ;) They like followers, not thinkers.... ;)
 

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Are you sure your talking about liberals? I've heard liberals say the same thing about consertives. Who's right?
Well Hillary didn't bother to name anyone in the vast right wing conspiracy (I wonder why) but I am confident that she would not be naming any prominent liberals. Who was the last republican president that hasn't been defined as an idiot, fool, under-educated, incompetent and the like by the liberal elite?<br /><br /><br />
I can't speak for the past fifteen years, and you forgot chapaqui**** (I have no idea how to spell it), but I can't support his most recent comments except to say that behind the partisan crap there's a bit of truth.
There is a shread of truth in all lies. I wasn't attacking his deplorable personal behavior, just his political acts.<br /><br /> <br />
Seems to be the one philosphy shared by both the the republican and democrate parties.<br />
Not true. Name one program that has been put forth by liberals that support a conservative position? I can name a bunch GW has done: How about a perscription benefit?<br /><br />
Or, it could be they earned a college degree that bestows the title
What seminary did the Reverand Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton attend? Perhaps smearing MLK's blood on himself made Jesse uniquely qualified to extort, no excuse me, assist in national policy.<br /><br />
There are many posts on this board that present the "facts". Please post a link to one post that calls the author a pig.
I don't write for or against anyone who posts opinions in a BB. Especially a boating forum where we use this as a means to put forth ideas and not political legislation. I enjoy debate, but would leave if this became a ranting format for extremists of either stripe. I speak of those who are in our government. Sheila Jackson Lee has on numerous occasion called numerous Republican's racist pigs. Think Big and broad. <br /><br />
Seems like kind of a liberal philosphy. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider your post?
Nope! I am neither Demo, or Rep. But those who are identified as liberals are in reality not liberal at all. They are elitists. I am a free thinking taxpayer. :p
 

bobingardner

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<br />POINTER94<br />Master Chief Petty Officer<br />Member # 34158<br /><br />- posted May 14, 2004 12:01 AMMay 14, 2004 12:01 AM Profile for POINTER94 Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote <br /><br /> quote: Are you sure your talking about liberals? I've heard liberals say the same thing about consertives. Who's right? <br /><br />Well Hillary didn't bother to name anyone in the vast right wing conspiracy (I wonder why) but I am confident that she would not be naming any prominent liberals. Who was the last republican president that hasn't been defined as an idiot, fool, under-educated, incompetent and the like by the liberal elite?<br />
who are the liberal elite and what are you talking about? What does Hillory have to do with this? Did I miss yet another meeting?<br /><br />
<br /> quote: I can't speak for the past fifteen years, and you forgot chapaqui**** (I have no idea how to spell it), but I can't support his most recent comments except to say that behind the partisan crap there's a bit of truth.<br /><br />There is a shread of truth in all lies. <br />
There's a shread of truth in all lies? OK. I guess. Too deep a thought for my simple mind.<br /><br />
<br />I wasn't attacking his deplorable personal behavior, just his political acts.<br /><br /><br /> quote: Seems to be the one philosphy shared by both the the republican and democrate parties.<br /><br />Not true. Name one program that has been put forth by liberals that support a conservative position? I can name a bunch GW has done: How about a perscription benefit?<br />
If it weren't for the liberals pushing for health care plan GW wouldn't give a damn.<br /><br />
<br /> quote: Or, it could be they earned a college degree that bestows the title <br /><br />What seminary did the Reverand Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton attend? Think big and broad.<br />
You made a broad brush statement against all liberals now your trying to limit it to a one or two people. I don't see any reason to respond to this.<br /><br />
<br /> quote: There are many posts on this board that present the "facts". Please post a link to one post that calls the author a pig. <br /><br />I don't write for or against anyone who posts opinions in a BB. I speak of those who are in our government. Sheila Jackson Lee has on numerous occasion called numerous Republican's racist pigs. Think Big and broad.<br /><br />
Is Sheila a member of this board? <br /><br />
<br /> quote: Seems like kind of a liberal philosphy. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider your post? <br /><br />Nope! I am neither Demo, or Rep. But those who are identified as liberals are in reality not liberal at all. They are elitists. I am a free thinking taxpayer.<br /><br />
No, your not a freethinking taxpayer. I can say that with the same conviction that you can say liberals are elistists.
 

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I don't write for or against anyone who posts opinions in a BB. I speak of those who are in our government. Sheila Jackson Lee has on numerous occasion called numerous Republican's racist pigs. Think Big and broad.<br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Is Sheila a member of this board? <br /><br />
Think big and broad <br /><br />Are you being selectively obtuse?<br /><br />
quote: Or, it could be they earned a college degree that bestows the title <br /><br />What seminary did the Reverand Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton attend? Think big and broad.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />You made a broad brush statement against all liberals now your trying to limit it to a one or two people. I don't see any reason to respond to this.<br />
Duh! The entire post was a broad statement against liberal policies and ideologies, not individuals and especially not specifically anyone who frequents this post.<br /><br />
quote: Are you sure your talking about liberals? I've heard liberals say the same thing about consertives. Who's right? <br /><br />Well Hillary didn't bother to name anyone in the vast right wing conspiracy (I wonder why) but I am confident that she would not be naming any prominent liberals. Who was the last republican president that hasn't been defined as an idiot, fool, under-educated, incompetent and the like by the liberal elite?<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />who are the liberal elite and what are you talking about? What does Hillory have to do with this? Did I miss yet another meeting?<br />
You didn't miss it - you were intentionally excluded.<br /><br /><br />
There is a shread of truth in all lies. <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />There's a shread of truth in all lies? OK. I guess. Too deep a thought for my simple mind.<br />
You said it not me.<br /><br />
If it weren't for the liberals pushing for health care plan GW wouldn't give a damn.<br /><br />No, your not a freethinking taxpayer. I can say that with the same conviction that you can say liberals are elistists. <br />
Now you are Carnack..
 

bobingardner

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<br />POINTER94<br />Master Chief Petty Officer<br />Member # 34158<br /><br />- posted May 14, 2004 12:55 AMMay 14, 2004 12:55 AM Profile for POINTER94 Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote <br /><br /> quote: I don't write for or against anyone who posts opinions in a BB. I speak of those who are in our government. Sheila Jackson Lee has on numerous occasion called numerous Republican's racist pigs. Think Big and broad.<br /><br /><br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /> Is Sheila a member of this board?<br /><br />Think big and broad<br />
OK I think I get your drift. Sheila's a broad.<br /><br />
<br />Are you being selectively obtuse?<br />
No. Are you being seletively judgemenatal?<br /><br />
<br /> quote: quote: Or, it could be they earned a college degree that bestows the title<br /><br /> What seminary did the Reverand Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton attend? Think big and broad.<br />
So, who's the broad? Sharpton or Jackson?<br />
<br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /> You made a broad brush statement against all liberals now your trying to limit it to a one or two people. I don't see any reason to respond to this.<br /><br />Duh! The entire post was a broad statement against liberal policies and ideologies, not individuals and especially not specifically anyone who frequents this post.<br />
Thanks for the confirmation.<br /><br />
<br /> quote: quote: Are you sure your talking about liberals? I've heard liberals say the same thing about consertives. Who's right?<br /><br /> Well Hillary didn't bother to name anyone in the vast right wing conspiracy (I wonder why) but I am confident that she would not be naming any prominent liberals. Who was the last republican president that hasn't been defined as an idiot, fool, under-educated, incompetent and the like by the liberal elite?<br />
I give up. Who was it?<br /> <br /><br />
<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /> who are the liberal elite and what are you talking about? What does Hillory have to do with this? Did I miss yet another meeting?<br /><br />You didn't miss it - you were intentionally excluded.<br /><br />
DARN! Well, if that's the way they feel I've just joined the ex-liberal for Bush campaing. I'm going to start by spending by children's inhertance on a fish finder.<br />
<br /> quote:There is a shread of truth in all lies.<br /><br /> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /> There's a shread of truth in all lies? OK. I guess. Too deep a thought for my simple mind.<br /><br />You said it not me.<br />
No, actually you said it. I just agreed. Don't blame me. I'm not a crook. You won't have me to kick around anymore.<br /><br />
<br /> quote: If it weren't for the liberals pushing for health care plan GW wouldn't give a damn.<br /><br /> No, your not a freethinking taxpayer. I can say that with the same conviction that you can say liberals are elistists.<br />
BTW It's way past my bedtime. So if I don't respond dont take it personally.
 

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Posted by 18rabbit: “The New Deal” was a mainline shoot in the arm of communism.
Iliked FDR for his ability to galvanize the populace, regardless of their individual political inclinations in a time of tremendous hardships. As far as the new deal goes, one must weigh the benefits/liabilities to the country in an undiminished manner.<br />FDR did not have a communist bone in his body,shame on you for even suggesting it.<br /><br />Boomyal, I did not say that i prefered a profane society as you so diligently indicated,perhaps your comprehension is clouded by your zeal, but allow me to assure you that by not living in the secular society which we do,although not a perfect one, we run the risk of becoming a nation dwelling under the boot of authoritarianism.<br />If it's a christian version of Iran that you aspire to, then my dear fellow i'll refrain from saying as to where your head is stuck.
 

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Now here you will hear a conservative admit that not all liberals are elitists. <br /><br />Couldn't be! Here's why:<br /><br />The elitists are the power hungry ones who think they are smarter than everyone else. Who would their followers be if they were ALL elitists?<br /><br /><br />I believe FDR was sincere. It was socialism that he unwittingly fostered, not communism. Despite all his good intentions he started an economic erosion (and some may argue it hastened the moral erosion)which has multiplied exponentially. We have the Fed working at propping up (manipulating) the economy best we can; in fact we have the longest run of successful Keynesian economics ever charted. All others collapsed only to start over. Problem is the base gets hollowed out by deficit, which makes it ultimately not sustainable without endless growth. Sooner or later it will have to "adjust" rather severely. Wouldn't be the case if we were still on the gold standard. We would probably have had more modest growth, on the other hand. I trust modest solid better than rapid hollow. History will show us in the end, if we care to watch and learn. Like a cheap pyramid scam all bets are off when saturation occurs and adequate growth is no longer sustained. FDR was a man who was a great motivator and cared about his country, but the cost of his legacy we'll never be able to pay for. <br /><br />His distant cousin Theodore was the one I most admire this side of the Revolution. Conservative but the one who was farsighted enough to spearhead the conservation movement. Another good idea the leftists would have us believe came from them. (they just took a good idea to the extreme)
 
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