quagga mussels

[FAC]

i went to go get my boat banded today and they said i need to repaint my hull there is some growth on there that is completely dried but they want it all gone and with fresh paint so what did you guys do to get your boat banded? did you jump through all the rediculesly small hoops or did you find a loop-hole? please post your expierences with the quagga mussels

 

[Bondo]

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so what did you guys do to get your boat banded?

Donno,... What's boat Banding,..??

 

[FAC]

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where i am in southern California there are lake specific cables that connect the boat and trailer to prevent us from launching in other bodies of water so when you get one put on it is "banded"

 

[Jeep Man]

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Why would you look for "loopholes". The rules are there for a good reason, namely, preventing infestation of foreign species into a body of water. Just look at the Great Lakes as an example and the multi multi millions of dollars spent due to zebra mussel infestation. Follow the rules please.

 

[FAC]

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i was looking for loop-holes because i know my boat is not infected it sat at lake casitas for about 10 years and i got it banded when i took it home, i had to cut the tag to do some work on the boat and went to go get it reinstalled and they wont even do an inspection because of the stuff on my hull from lake casitas, i have not brought it even close to another body of water that could infect it i do not want to see casitas or any other lake infected with these mussels so i will do my part to not hurt the environment. i am just looking for an easier way to go boating at my favorite lake

 

[MRS]

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All you got to do is clean your hull and make sure you have no standing water in your boat anywear. We were at havasu last month and pulled up anchor and ta-da

 

[MRS]

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Photos did not take will try again

 

[MRS]

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[rebars1]

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Did your boat have bottom paint on it before? Maybe they are more nervous because it's a wood hull? At Cachuma they do the check list and give you a special washdown, but you have to be bone dry. I think they also have a quarrantine area to leave it for a couple of weeks, but I am not sure. Sounds like you may have to bite the bullet an bottom paint.

Maybe you could suggest they put an interim band (ie: red color) for a couple or three weeks in their dry storage before giving you the real one to launch.

Did you keep your slip?.

 

[fishrdan]

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What type of hull, fiberglass or painted aluminum? If fiberglass, there are some cleaners (MaryKate,,, something or another) that will cut the scum line off the boat. If paint, I don't know, there has to be something that will get rid of the marine growth. Then give it a good waxing. I call BS on the repainting of the hull, cleaning should suffice.

Wasn't it Casitas that got closed down last year, or was it Castaic? Either way it's a bummer. I'd freak if I had to jump through all those hoops you guys do out in CA...

If they want it painted, go to town with some washable paint. Once it hits the water it will all wash off... (I know, I know,,, bad idea...)

 

[FAC]

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it has the factory applied gellcote on it. it is a fiberglass boat, anybody with eyes and fingers could see and feel that the growth had been dry and dead for a few months, but i guess the rangers have to follow directions not to let boats with growth on them in to the lake. i will look into getting an interim band

on a side note: the ranger had an attitude about my boat he kind of acted like it was only worthy of the dump and was not fit to be on their lake because it was not a high dollar bass boat

 

[Stachi]

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have you tried power washing it ??

 

[fishrdan]

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Try some hull cleaner, I bet it would clean it right up as the stuff works wonders. You can get the cheap version, works just OK, it at Walmart, or I've heard good reviews of the Mary Kate On-Off hull cleaner. Also heard of people using acidic bathroom cleaner to get stuff of the hull. What ever you use, wear rubber gloves and skin/eye protection as the good hull cleaner is some nasty stuff, acid.

I looked at a boat that was infested with quaggas, left in Mead for a long time. I tried some diluted muratic acid on the residue the little buggers left (root?) and it did remove the stuff after awhile,,, but you have to be VERY careful with muratic acid. I passed the boat as it wasn't worth the work trying to get rid of mussels,,, I'm not going under a boat with acid dripping off it

I can appreciate your frustration, but in reality, it only takes 1 boat infected boat to contaminate a lake. And even though you know the boat is safe, the ranger has no clue where the boat has been. It does seem they are going to an extreme in you case,,, repaint, WT*?

 

[FAC]

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i really don't like to mess with strong chemicals so i think i will sand most of the stuff of and make it smooth then use a stain remover to try and get it shiny enough for the ranger

 

[fishrdan]

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Sanding? that seems a bit extreme to me. It would probably work, I guess, but I wouldn't go with very rough sand paper. Seems like a lot of elbow grease where the hull cleaner would make quick work of the problem.

Post up another thread with a title of what you are trying to accomplish to get some more exposure to your problem,,, "cleaning hull" or "removing marine growth off hull". It might help to get someone with hull cleaning experience to give you some good advice. Pictures would help too if possible.

Hope you get your rig back in the water soon,
Dan

 

[rebars1]

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I met a guy about 1 year ago who was going through the same thing at Casitas. Maybe it was you, but I thought he had a wood hull. I think if you got the hull smoothed and shiney it would pass (hull cleaner, buff and wax)

 

[Fun Times]

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I found this, They are not playing around with this stuff.

Federal Judge Orders Nevada Man To Pay $2500 FINE


Page, AZ ? In the first trial involving Glen Canyon National Recreation Area?s mussel prevention regulations, a federal judge has ordered a Nevada man to pay a $2500 fine for failing to have his boat inspected for mussels before launching on Lake Powell.
On Monday, October 19, Federal Magistrate Judge Robert T. Braithwaite found Nevada resident Jonny Ward guilty of violating regulations requiring mandatory inspections for ?at risk? boats entering Lake Powell. Ward visited Glen Canyon on August 17, 2009, and was informed by park staff that he was required to have his boat inspected for zebra and quagga mussels before launching on Lake Powell. Ward instead proceeded to Lone Rock Beach, where he launched in violation of Glen Canyon regulations. National Park Service rangers contacted Ward on Lone Rock Beach and issued him a mandatory citation to appear in court for violating mussel prevention regulations. Ward elected to go to trial, and was found guilty of violating Glen Canyon?s quagga mussel regulations by Judge Braithwaite. National Park Service staff testified in court in support of the prosecution.
?We appreciate Judge Braithwaite?s support for our mussel prevention efforts at Glen Canyon National Recreation Area? Superintendent Stan Austin said. ?Our success in keeping Lake Powell mussel-free will only continue with the cooperation and support of all of our partners and visitors.?
Zebra and quagga mussels are aquatic invasive species that can lead to severe economic and environmental consequences for lakes and other waterways. A number of water bodies in the region are known to be infested with quagga mussels. Glen Canyon National Recreation Area has had an active mussel prevention program in place since 2000 for Lake Powell. All evidence to date indicates Lake Powell is zebra and quagga mussel free.
www.nps.gov/glca