Re-installing the lower unit

whodunnit

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Mercruiser 165, The lower unit came off the gear housing without any trouble. Replaced the impeller. The lower unit lines up on the way back together but stops about 3/4" before mating up with the other housing. It's got to be the driveshaft not allowing it to go all the way on. We've been at it for a while. Theres got to be a trick. What is it?
 

dubs283

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

are you in forward gear at the helm and the drive??
 

gshldon

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

Make sure it is in forward gear at the helm and also in the out drive, lower shift shaft and shift foot have to allign up or it will not go together, if everything is all alligned up, then sometimes just a swift "merc kick" will get it the rest of the way on.

That is how i do it with mine.

Good Luck and Happy Boating
 
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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

You putting the drive back on the boat, or bolting the lower and upper halves back together after the inpeller change?? If the latter, kicking it together isn't the norm.

When you bolt the halves together, they both need to be in forward. IF you didn't have both halves of the drive in forward you have to take it apart again and do it over. Or your shifting won't be right.

When you put the drive back on the boat both need to be in forward. If you pulled it off the boat in any other gear, you can damage a shift shaft in the drive.
 

whodunnit

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

I am attempting to bolt the lower half backto the upper. It was in neutral when disassembled. So at this point what steps do I take to re-assemble?
 

ziggy

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

drop the lower far enough to get hold of the shift shaft in the lower. if ya gotta drop the lower to do this, do it. then turn the shift shaft cw i beleive while turning the prop shaft ccw. when the prop shaft wont turn ccw, the lower is in fwd. put a bungee on the prop and load it up ccw. don't let it turn cw the least little bit. if it does it will likely shift out of fwd. only turn the prop shaft ccw..
while the lowers separated from the upper. shift the helm into fwd. you can confirm fwd. by looking up under the fore side of the drive and looking at the shift shaft coupler between the upper and the bell housing. they will be facing fwd.

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this drive is in neutral. if it were in fwd. the coupler would face fwd. if in reverse, it would face further than it is to port.

then try to reinstall. imho it painfull at best but keep trying and you will succeed. you'll probably need two people to put it back. as you know, it's heavy and awkward to hold onto.

all that said.
take the upper off and put the lower and upper back together on the bench. it can be done by yourself pretty darn easy. still have to have everything in fwd. though. plus side of doing it on the bench is you will be able to perform other pm that is necessary. ie. grease coupler, lub ujoints, inspect for water intrusion into the bellows area, check alignment, test gimble bearing for smoothness.

i put the drive back on using a drive stand. i do this by myself also.

there are obvious benefits to pulling the whole drive..

ps, don't forget the washer on top of the shift shaft in the lower. it must be in place.. it's easy to forget.. don't forget the quad ring (seal) between the oil passage between the upper and lower. that's easy to forget too..
 

Fordiesel69

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

Pull lower unit back off. Put boat in forward gear. While turning the prop counterclockwise, move the shift shaft unit prop locks counterclockwise. Do not bump or attempt to move the prop any other direction but counter clockwise. The lower unit should mate with the upper with easy. You may need to slightly align the shift foot onto the shift shaft, but otherwise should be a breese.
 

ziggy

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

but otherwise should be a breese
imho. i've not found that to be the case. when i first got into servicing my i/o. i removed the lower only too. i did it maybe three times. i found it painful to do at best. + i never figured a way to do it myself. i always had to have help.

now, putting the upper together on the bench i do find to be a breeze. no heavy weight to support. can observe the two halves mating. worst i've had it was maybe trying to mate them three times before succeeding. usually get it on the first try, for sure the 2nd try usually.
putting the drive back on the boat isn't to bad either. if ya use a drive stand. my stand is supper low tech + i work on and uneven white rock driveway. so far, no major problems doing that either. by myself. plus the added benefits for pm i stated earlier.

i'm not likely to ever remove only the lower again. it's just to painful to accomplish reassembly. especially by myself.

that's my take anyways.. but for sure. to ea. his own. what works good for one may not work good for someone else.
 

produceguy

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

I have a alpha1 gen 1 4.3 mer. and to put my lower unit in forward gear I have to get a pair of plyers and pull up on the lower shift shaftt and turn clockwise.

It doesn't tell you that in the manul,but that's what I do.

The shaft will only turn and pull up ,but just a hair.
 

ziggy

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Re: Re-installing the lower unit

I have to get a pair of plyers
i can't remember which size. but one of your 6 pt. sockets from your 1/4 drive set will fit the shift shaft splines in the lower..
and pull up on the lower shift shaft
i don't know why ya have to do that. on my mc-1 when ya turn the shift shaft, it shifts. no pulling up required.. mc-1 is pre alpha1
 
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