In reply/additional info. to the question i asked on the (opinion on good motor)post. My power requirments are vast 9.9-90hp, 2stroke acceptable but 4preferred. This question was ment more for a general idea of what ppls opinions where. If i find a john boat with a 7yr old 9.9 merc on it is that dependable or to old? or i find a 50hp evinrude thats 15yrs old is it still dependable? Any brand known to hold up to salt water better? really my question is what motor lasts the longest, any brands with a bad rap? im not that knowledgable about the history of each brand and when some changes came about that could make the brand better or worse. I have been told honda makes the best motors but most ppl that say that are honda owners. Im not trying to instigate a arguement, just get diff. opinions. Really the best bang for the buck is what im after. I make about 50k and want a good fishing boat that is ok for flats but on calm days can take out a mile or so, if its a jon boat with a 4yr old merc 9.9 or i find a deal on a 10yr old boston whaler with a 25hp evinrude which motor is the better choice, more bang with the evinrude but 9.9 is newer, so is a evinrude still dependabl after 10yrs enough to choose over a newer less powered engine? this just example of what im looking at.(the boat is irrelivant in example) Im just trying to see if there is a trend that ppl say, ex:dont go with tohatsu in late 90's they put out bad motors for some reason or merc's in mid 90's tried this change and caused problems.(like harley when amf took over)