Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

mafhuntfish

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

IMHO....It seems odd to me that all 3 carbs floats are still failing. One would think that after rechecking them several times that at least one of them would be installed right and working correctly. I would take another real hard look at the primer solenoid and the reed valves. Sometimes the reed valves are hard to see and if one is bent, broke, or propped open - the compression from the cylinders will force air back through the carbs and cause fuel to spill out the front. You only have this problem when the motor is running or turning over, right? ........Lots of good advice on this forum and I'm sure that eventually you will solve the problem - there's only so many things that could be wrong
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

Test the primer solenoid by simply having the RED lever in the proper automatic position (as explained below), remove one of the small hoses at the intake manifold area, then apply pressure to the fuel primer bulb. If fuel flows out that small hose, the primer solenoid is faulty.

Note that when the engine is tilted, the float levels obviously change. This will allow a small amount of mixture leak from the carburetors and is the reason for that small hose being attached to the carburetor face plate that leads to the lower main bearing area.

(Fuel Primer Solenoid Function)
(J. Reeves)

The RED lever...... The normal operating/running position is to have that red lever positioned over top of the solenoid and aimed at the other end of the solenoid, gently turned to its stop. This is the normal/automatic mode position. Pushing the key in opens the valve within the solenoid allowing fuel to pass thru it in order to prime and start the engine. Looking upon this solenoid as a electric choke results in a better understanding of it.

Having that red lever turned in the opposite direction, facing away from the solenoid, allows fuel to flow thru it to the crankcase area. One would only turn the red lever to this position in a case where the battery might go dead and the engine had to be started via the rope pull method. Look upon putting the red lever in this position as moving a choke lever on a choke equipped engine to the full closed position. Either one would supply fuel to the crankcase/engine for starting purposes BUT if left in that position while running would flood the engine.

The later model primer solenoids are equipped with a schrader valve, used for attaching a pressurized can of fogging oil etc, available at your local dealership with complete instructions.

Pumping the fuel primer bulb up hard fills the carburetor float chambers of course, but that process also applies fuel pressure to the primer solenoid.

The two small hoses leading from the primer solenoid branch off via tees to each fuel manifold section that would feed fuel to the individual cylinders.

Pushing the key in activates the primer solenoid to allow fuel to flow thru it to the intake manifold passageways. Cranking the engine over causes the fuel pump to engage which in turn sends fuel pulses to the primer solenoid via the 3/8" fuel hose.

Some engines incorporates the "Fast Start" feature which automatically advances the spark electronically so no advance of the throttle is required for starting.
Engines that do not have the "Fast Start" feature will be required to have the throttle advanced slightly.

Starting procedure: pump fuel bulb up hard, crank engine and push the key in at the same time. When the engine fires/starts, release the key so that it falls back to the run position.

Bottom line..... Look upon the primer solenoid as an electric choke.

(Carburetor Float Setting)
(J. Reeves)

With the carburetor body held upside down, the float being viewed from the side, adjust the float so that the free end of the float (the end opposite the hinge pin) is ever so slightly higher (just ever so slightly off level) than the other end. And when viewed from the end, make sure it is not cocked.
 

ENSIGN

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

Sounds like your float level isn't correct or your float valves aren't operating correctly. You did the blow test, so time to re-check your float level.

I Agree 100%
 

ezeke

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

Having all three float valves or all three sets of reeds go at the same time? Come on guys.
 

SS140

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

Yeah esepcially since I said I did the "blow" test 10000 times.

It's NOT the floats. Thank you for trying, but Im really asking the veterans

Thank you :)
 

mafhuntfish

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

Having all three float valves or all three sets of reeds go at the same time? Come on guys.

Absolutely right.... don't know why I couldn't get the reed thing out of my head.

SS140 - most of us don't have 1,000's of posts on this forum - it doesn't mean that we're all amateurs - if you don't like the advice or don't think it applies to your situation - don't use it - especially when you're getting it for free
 

SS140

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Re: Rebuilt carbs myself, still fuel coming out the front

SS140 - most of us don't have 1,000's of posts on this forum - it doesn't mean that we're all amateurs - if you don't like the advice or don't think it applies to your situation - don't use it - especially when you're getting it for free

Not Necessary
 
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