regulator problem

kb3gup

Seaman Apprentice
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Hello again,

I'm fixing everything on my boat and motor. My next task is to put on a new regulator. I have a 60hp Johnson VJ60TLENE. The problem I was having was my tach was jumping around and pegging out then going to 0. I replaced all the wires (to make sure it wasn't a grounding issue) my first question, is the regulator causing this? The motor ran fine and it was putting out 14.6 volts when it was running. My second question is, while looking at them online they all say not to use AGM or maintenance free batteries. Why is this? And all my batteries are made by Deka, the starting battery is a dual purpose but is maintenance free, will this cause a problem? Thanks again!!!
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: regulator problem

The "Don't Use Maintenance Free Batteries" scenario pertains to a problem that some engines have registering overcharging ie registering way over the top 14.5 voltage mark of a volt meter. I'm not sure if they make any other type battery now, except the one in my lawn mower. If you don't have an overcharge problem, I wouldn't be concerned about that point.

The tachometer problem..... the following procedure should define whether you have a tachometer or regulator/rectifier problem, BUT you may need to splice in the tachometer test wires if your engine does not have the mentioned terminal strip.

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.
 
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