Removing a fuel tank

MR nova @#25

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I want to remove the gas tank on my 77 Wellcraft Nova 250 offshore (its been sitting in my yard for 5yrs):facepalm: The last 12-18inches of foam surrounding the fuel tank are Soaked...What esle would I expect from a 30 year old + boat? Not counting on old fashion elbow grease, is there any thing I can pour on to the foam to soften it up, that wont harm the fiberglass.

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

Hi Nova....

if you are tearing the tank out......the wet foam has to come out as well.....i dont really understand why you want to soften the foam....
anything wet comes out.

as far as what to expect.....sorry to tell you.....there might be a total gut in your future
 

MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

My plan is remove the fuel tank completely, clean it reinstall and refoam. I can only remove 1/2 the foam from the tank. I cant get to the foam on the under side... let me reword what Im trying to say... Is there somthing I can use that will losen the grip the foam has on my gas tank so I can remove it:)
 

oops!

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

YEP......the tip of a chain saw......a sawzall.....or a chizel....

the stuff is made to glue to its suroundings......and with the matrix of the foam.....it really makes a strong product.....so it allmost allways needs to be cut out.

as far as underneath.....you have no option but pull......unless you pull the deck and bulkhead in front of the tank and can dig underneath of it...
 

MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

Looks like Im going to Home depot in the morning..


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Re: Removing a fuel tank

Pics would help. I had to remove the (2) 70 gallon aluminum fuel tanks from my project. They were foamed in on all sides. I started by removing the metal brackets that were holding them in place. I then took a sawzall with a 5" blade and went all the way around ( vertically) --twice and removed about a 1" section.

I then cut the aft bulkhead and removed it all the way down to the hull. This enabled me to get a 4' prybar in between the tank and the hull. I put a scrap 2x4 under the prybar and worked it farther and farther under the tank until it popped free. I did the forward tank the same way.

I did try to just pull the tank out vertically with my gantry using a 2 ton chain hoist --without cutting the foam under the tank. All that accomplished was bending the tank and lifting the boat.:facepalm:
 

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

I removed mine...I used a long blade on a sawzall all around the edges then I had a friend with a wrecker yank it out. I used a strap with wrench on it removed the fuel sending unit which left about a two inch hole that I could get the wrench inside the tank.I cleaned the tank and coal tar epoxied the whole thing after I pressure tested it. I did not put the foam back in I sealed it down with 3m5200, and blocking I also drilled a hole thru a wall separating the bilge and gas tank coffin area so in the future if water did get back in there it could drain out I used a plug to keep in the hole in case my gas tank ever failed the gas wouldnt go into the bilge. Every once in awhile I take the plug out and see if water made its way back in there ,
 

MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

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I have removed all the foam I can see.... Still cant get the tank out. any ideas any one ???
 

MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

I found a fuel tank extraction tool.... it was in my basement 021.jpg001.jpg015.jpg017.jpg got the tank out and found a hole in the bottom. about the size a BB..
 

SawDust{RM}

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

So are you going to repair the tank or replace it ?
 

MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

lucky for me the welders shop is about 5min away......but theres always marine tex..
 

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Well hopefully the wet foam was just from the fuel and not from water intrusion. If I remember, nowadays tanks are not supposed to be foamed in... because it takes so long to discover if you have a leak. But congrats on the tank removal... hopefully its salvageable.

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MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

The tank is a total write off! We found 7 holes in the rear section of the tank, top, bottom and sides. I planned on getting it repaired. but there was so much crap inside the tank... (It a looked like wet saw dust).. better safe than sorry.. Im getting a new one built..
Break Out Another Thousand.:redface:
 

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

The tank is a total write off! We found 7 holes in the rear section of the tank, top, bottom and sides. I planned on getting it repaired. but there was so much crap inside the tank... (It a looked like wet saw dust).. better safe than sorry.. Im getting a new one built..
Break Out Another Thousand.:redface:

Ayuh,... Have ya already "Made" the deal,..?? Did ya consider Plastic,..??
 

MR nova @#25

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

Not yet... I read the plastic tanks release gas vapors when it get hot. also Ineed a tank thats 120 gal
 

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Re: Removing a fuel tank

I read the plastic tanks release gas vapors
Yes and no. If you buy a plastic tank made before the new EPA rules went into effect (January 1, 2012) the tank does emit some vapor, but the amount is so small that you can't even smell it, and it doesn't present a hazard unless the amount is above 1.2 grams per cubic foot of volume (of the compartment) and then the compartment has to be ventilated. So most tank manufacturers made sure it never exceeded this amount. This works out to about 100 grams per square foot of surface area on the tank per 24 hour period. Again that amount is so small even a fume detector wouldn't register it. Those tanks have been used safely in boats for over 30 years without any problems. No I don't have any financial interest in them. I am retired USCG and used to regulate the people who make them.

Tanks made now under the new EPA rule have to emit less than 15 grams per day!. That is so minuscule it's even hard to measure in a lab. Plastic tanks don't corrode, they have no seams to break or leak, and last almost forever. They pass the USCG requirements for strength and fire resistance, as do metal tanks. They are not affected by ethanol or any of the other solvents and toxic stuff they put in gasoline these days. The one in my 1972 Sea Ray is about 30 years old. Their big drawback is they only go up to about 100 gallons because they are not baffled. Most of the problems with plastic tanks have been due to human error, people drilling holes in them or putting a screw in the deck that penetrates the tank, or not securing them adequately. There have been some issues with badly fitting gaskets but that was about 10 years ago.

Frankly I'll take a plastic tank over a metal one anytime.
 
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