Replacing Guages

lrlima

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I just bought a new Faria guages to upgrage my current set. Boat is a 1993 Four WInns 4.3 OMC. <br /><br />Do I need to change the senders (temp, fuel, trim) to match? The guages that I'm replacing are original and I believe the senders are too...
 

DukesFin

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Re: Replacing Guages

I'm about to do the same since I am putting a new engine in my boat.<br /><br />Senders are not that expensive, so I decided why not get new senders to go with the new guages just to be sure everything is reading correctly when I turn her over.<br /><br />(Just my two cents)!
 

lrlima

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Re: Replacing Guages

Makes sense - but do they need to be the same brand (in this case Faria)? Or will any type work?
 

DukesFin

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Re: Replacing Guages

Well, I'm using new teleflex guages, but the oil pressure and water temp senders, I'm getting from my marine parts supplier. Remeber, what I'm doing is completely replacing everything in front of my intermediate housing/outdrive on my boat. Both of those sensors are "engine" parts, and electrical, so It's just a matter of connecting the wires for me.<br /><br />I would still wait to see what the "pros" say on this though. I'm not a pro for sure, but know just enough to get me in trouble! :D
 

tommays

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Re: Replacing Guages

Different brands MAY have different high and low OHM values which will affect the guage readings.<br /><br />You would need to compare the old and new to avoide any problems<br />
INBOARD AND STERN DRIVE WATER <br />TEMPERATURE SYSTEM <br />1. To test gauge, voltage from “I” to “G” terminals must be 10-16 VDC. No wire on “S” terminal. Gauge pointer <br />should rest below 120ºF. Next, connect the “S” terminal to the “G” terminal (leave “I” and “G” terminals <br />connected). The gauge pointer should rest above 240ºF. <br />2. The resistance of the sender can be measured to determine the sender's correct operation. Remove <br />wire to gauge. Connect an ohmmeter to terminal of sender and to engine block. Approximate values are: <br />75ºF (room temperature) = 550 to 750 ohms; 212 degrees = 55 ohms. You will get half these values on a <br />dual gauge sender. <br />3. If sender is shorted (0 ohms), gauge will read above 240ºF. <br />4. If sender has infinite resistance (Open), gauge will read below 120ºF. <br />5. If the gauge reads lower than expected, was sealer used on the sender threads (see picture)? <br />6. The accuracy of the system (gauge, sender, voltage range) can vary as much as +/- 16º at 180ºF. <br />7. Pipe extenders to plumb both a sender and temperature switch (for horn or warning light) from one port is <br />not recommended. The amount of weight extended on the fitting of a vibrating engine could cause fatigue <br />breakage. Also, the sender is removed from water flow and will probably read cooler. <br />8. Teleflex does not offer senders for metric threaded ports. <br />9. Dual Station installations: <br />When replacing one gauge in a two station installation, the second gauge may need to be replaced as <br />well. Mixing two gauge manufacturers to one sender may cause an error in both gauges. <br />If one gauge fails the second gauge will read much higher than expected. <br />If the sender fails "open," both gauges will read below 120ºF. <br />If the sender fails "short," both gauges will read above 240ºF. <br />10.Twin engines - it may be helpful in troubleshooting to switch either the senders or the gauges from engine <br />to engine.
tommays
 

blues

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Re: Replacing Guages

ok, I just replaced my gauge a teleflex temp gauge,
the new one stays above 240 no matter what,..
so, my sender is bad? it is also new.
so, a bad wire somewhere then?
 

ziggy

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Re: Replacing Guages

i think i'd start back at the sender. doin like tommays suggestest, checking items 2 and 3. yer gonna have to use yer ohm meter to find the facts. if it proves good, then it may be the wire going forward. ya could test it by removeing both ends of the wire and testing to ground with yer ohm meter at that point. it should be an open circit, infinte reseistance. if it's anything other than that, the wire would be considered shorted & i'd think and ya'll have to investigate further as to where it's finding a ground at...........that's my 'guess' as i know nothing of yer teleflex gages or senders........
 

bjcsc

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Re: Replacing Guages

Irlima: if the senders work, why replace them? If you start replacing things because they might fail you will never finish...
 
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