Republicans: Are you loyal to the man, or to the principle? C&P

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Other good reads from a brilliant author ,Shelby Steele.

The Content Of Our Character"(1991),

"A Dream Differed"(1999)

"White Guilt"
(2006)
He pretty-much nails the "milktoast"
 

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Boomyal said:
Walter E. Williams collaborated with another Williams (a one Juan Williams) to declare that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are race *****s.

I can agree with that!

I also think that when a person in a position of power breaks the law (perjury included) there should be great consequences at or around the maximum allowable by law. No matter "who" the person is.
 

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wonderfully informative couple of posts Ebb...d:)
 

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Wasn't there a thread some months back discussing what constitutes a troll?Same ol stinkbait.8)

Oh ,and just for the record,I also think Bill Maher is a nasal self enveloped swaggy girly man whose remarks drop from his brain to his tongue like a cheap gumball machine.8)If he was even remotely funny and didn't chuckle sneeringly prematurely at his own material ,he might be borderline tolerable.
 

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Well, if violating the constitution and upsetting the Libs in the interest of national security in wartime is such a big crime, I guess we have to tear down all the statues of FDR and impeach him retroactively. Oh, and Harry, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, and Clinton, too.

These trolls really get boring after a while.
 

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JB said:
These trolls really get boring after a while.
That's a troll.

My post was only a question concerning loyalty to man or principals.
 

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No, this is what you posted that I think JB is calling a troll.
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Bill Maher is the host of HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher” which returns to the air 11PM Friday, August 25.

So a judge has ruled that not only is Bush's warrantless wiretapping program illegal, it's also unconstitutional. And not just unconstitutional, but doubly unconstitutional; it violates both the 1st and 4th amendments. We're talking a smackdown of Judge Judy-esque proportions.

Now, I'm not really pushing the impeachment of George Bush, unless it's about lying about that fish I talked about last season. Them I'm all for it.

But if this decision stands, and this program is unlawful and unconstitutional, federal law expressly makes the ordering of surveillance under the program a federal felony. That would mean that the president could be guilty of no fewer than 30 felonies while in office. Moreover, it is not only illegal for a president to order such surveillance, it is illegal for other government officials to carry out such an order. And that means Alberto Gonzalez could be tried, convicted, and deported.

So let's just say for the sake of argument that the Supreme Court upholds this decision and says Bush broke the law and violated the Constitution. President Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in a civil case, a case that had no bearing on the public as a whole. This would - unquestionably - be a greater offense.

How would you square impeaching Clinton and not impeaching Bush? Or would Bush have to sleep with this judge in Detroit?

It's sort of like the 7 minutes question I always ask Republicans. Are you loyal to the man, or to the principle?
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This drivel passes for political insight? Sad.

Don't sell yourself short LFK, your insights are far superior to this.
 
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