Restoration Pics

93bronco

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just got 2 pics of the t166. used image station. will try and post to my topic.
 

93bronco

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i noticed that the u-shaped area that i was talking about was removed on yours. did you take it out?<br />do you have any pictures of the stringers glassed in/ floors going in/ what you screw the deck to?<br />why did yo use plywood for the stringers?<br />-<br />as you can see im kinda full of ??s. i know everyone's got their own way of doing things.<br />just trying to keep buget small so i can go all out on the 1802.<br />-<br />by the way hows the back? i see a neurosurgeon next month. i figure ill have about 30 days after that to get things done. pain doc hinted at more metal plates, and set the appt.
 

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I think you are talking about the little "well" aroungd the drain plug that was fiberglassed to the floor? If I cut it out witha grinder as I saw no logic in it being built the way it was. There were two holes in it, but they were an inch off the floor, meaning there had to be an inch of water in the bilge at some angle to drain. I'm sure there was a purpose for it, just not sure what it was. My version... I'll be installing 2 manual switched 500gph bilge pumps, each with irs own thru-hull. I'll probably mount 1 in front of the drain plug, and the other will likely be onn to one side. Overkill? - maybe, but at ~$10 each, it's cheap insurance. I also will likely not fiberglass the gas tank floor back in. It'll be there, but held down by screws so I can access the pumps. I added an extra couple braces to the stringers under the floor to cover any possible loss of strength.<br /><br />Unfortunately, every time I worked on the stringers, I ended up covered in sticky resin from head to toe and didn't think about pics. I meant to snap a couple before laying the foam and floor in, but forgot when I went out and remembered about two minutes after I finished putting in the screws...<br /><br />I used plywood as it seemed to be the most recommended material, and it was readily available at my local Lowes. Each stringer is two strips of 17/32 ply glues with waterproof glue and stapled together with galvanized pneumatic staples. I then soaked them in resin and let them dry before installing. Those things are solid. I then glasse dthem in with a couple layers of heavy mat. You couldn't move them witha sledge hammer. Really wish I had gotten those pics though so you could get an idea of the extra bracing and drainage I put in. When you pull the floor, you will likely find one factory brace running across the boat. I built 3 of them out of double 3/4 ply, stapled together, soaked in resin and mat. I then notched all stringers at the location of the original and about 1/3 of the way from the ends. I screwed the braces to the stringers with stainless screws then heavily glassed the joints with the stringers. I was careful to cit the length of the braces to fit a bit short of touching the hull and then lightly glassed the ends to the floor. It seemed to tie the boat together much better and add support to the floor, which I used thinner wood for to save some weight, I then used some duct tape to create a hollow area on each side of the center stringer to give stray water some where to gom and then installed a 1/2" pvc pipe on each side. I ran it from the front bulkhead to the end of the stringer. The ends are sealed so that water entering from the bow should flow down the pvc to the bilge. I then poured foam to the top of the stringers in the two center bulge areas.<br /><br />Ask all the questions you need/want. I'm happy to share what I know/have done. Gives me something to do while I'm sitting around healing. The back is doing well. I'm able to do mast light stuff as long as I don't bend or lean much. I stll have some loss of feeling in my hip and foot, but it is slowly returning. The surgery seems to have gotten rid of 90% of the leg pain. As it heals, I think I will get closer to 99%. I wouldn't wish back pain on anyone. I hope your goes well. The surgery itself wasn't bad, but the discomfort afterward of waking up on my back, on a hard flat table with an icepack under my back on the incision was rough. Didn't hurt, but had to stay that way for 3 hours while waking up. Don't know that I've ever been that uncomfortable before and they wouldn't let me move to get comfortable...... Granted, this was the fist time I have ever had surgery and the first time I have had general anesthetic. I think it just made me cranky :rolleyes:
 

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i went to lowes last week and asked them about what kind of plywood they recommend and i couldnt get a strait answer. i think personally ive got about 10 to 15 more years to enjoy life in general, if it will last 5 to 7 ill be happy.<br />- <br />i run my hand all around the inside of that well, i didnt feel any holes. theres 1 now to help it drain, when im not working on it. <br />when you put your floor down, what kind of wood did you get & did you end up with any low spots?<br />-<br />i have to look, but do they make a closed cell non-expanding porable foam- so that you can sea & work with it as you pour. then put your floor in?<br />thanx
 

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I used AB or AC grade exterior ply. Can't remember exactly, but it was the one that came in funny 13/32, 17/32, and 23/32 sizes. I used the 23/32 in layers for the transom, 17/32 for the stringers and bulkhead, and 13/32 for the floor. All was soaked in resin and glassed to my satisfaction of being overbuilt. I didn't have any noticable low spots, but the foam I used puts a very slight upward bow in the floor that I hope will help it drain water off quickly.<br /><br />As for the foam, I haven't seen any non-expanding. I used standard 2lb expanding purchased here: http://www.expresscomposites.com/foamcore.html <br /><br />The 2 gallon kit was enough to fill the two center cavities with three 2-liter bottles per side buried under the foam. Could have use 2 more bottles per side and had some foam for other spots. The expanding stuff was actually pretty easy after the first small pour I made. It is very predictable and levels reasonably well.<br /><br />The folks at express know there stuff and have good prices. I got my cloth, roven, and mat there as well.
 

93bronco

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finished your paint yet?<br />do you remember the measurements on your transom & stringers? and what system did yo use to make sure they were all even & strait?<br />-<br />the other note- hows your back? my rite side of my neck is killing me- causing ringing in that ear 24/7. between that and the wench complaining that all i think & care about is my boat <she dont know about the t166> this is a bad week.
 

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In even and straight are you talking about level for the floor? I was able to save enough of the stringers for patterns. Unfortunately, I didn't keep and measurements as my father in law made them for me. Be careful as the bottom edge of the stringers is not straight. It has a convex shape. To get them back where the were, I had left a small ridge of the original glass on the low side of each. No guesswork.<br /><br />The back is Ok. hope to retirn to work Monday. I still have to be very careful not to lean, bend, or miove in %90 of the normal range of motions... but %95 of the pain is gone. <br /><br />Hope you can get that neck problem fixed. I wouldn't wish back/neck problems on anyone. I think my wife will be glad when I can get back out and work on the boat more so I'll quit grumbling about it. Right now I have my hands full taking care of her. She is 4mos pregnant and we spent Monday night in the hospital for dehydration (2nd trip). Now her immune system is so low, she's already had a major cold and ear infection this week.........<br /><br />I have been able to play with the boat a little. I'll post pics in a new thread.<br /><br />I'll see if my FIL stull has the old stringers so I can get you some measurements or a pattern, but I think he chopped the up and tossed them. I just have the old transom and floor pieces.
 

93bronco

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glad to hear your back is doing good. if i dont take my meds- im toast & cant move. it sux.-<br />sorry to hear about the better half.<br /> my buddies b/h is 7 mons and becoming a diabetic because of the baby.<br />that is one thing thing in life they can keep.<br />-<br />been letting the 166 dry out a little hoping to keep some of the stringers in tact. last week they were like a sponge.<br />i got my seacast info yesterday. im going to staple, nail & put a screw into the sample they sent me. that mite be a better route to go.<br />in a email they said the decking could be attached in any way. so we will sea.<br />-<br />been spending time and getting the 120/140 put back together. its sad to have 2 boats & none ready for the water.<br />when in pain 24/7 i really cant plan on anything, <br />what i feel like when i wake up is my planner.
 

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I know the feelig on having 2, but neither being water ready. The little boat is in pieces, and the 19'er needs some wiring redone.<br /><br />My FIL has already todded the old stringers. I looked at the seacast, but my budget didn't allow it, otheride it would have been great. It would have taken 15-20 gals as a rough guess, which would have been way over budget, but it would have been nice to be done with the boat in days instead of weeks.
 
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