Rich jerks.

[coolguy147]

ok i was biking around and stopped by the local boat ramp. decided to sit at the bench to watch this guy with a real nice boat come in. his friend backs the truck to the ramp then the guy in the boat goes and guide the boat to the trailer. then he gives it some gas(some gas is a lot for 225hp) and it rams it on the trailer pretty good. he gets off the boat and i tell him that he is not supposed to be power loading. there is even a sign next to the ramp facing the lake! said something like winch trailers should not power load. i tell him and he's like "yeah i know" they take the boat out strap it up and wait in the truck for a few minutes. next thing i know is hear them say hahaha your not supposed to be power loading. they were mocking me...

 

[funk6294]

Re: Rich jerks.

Yeah, trust me you will have the last laugh... One of these times he is going to screw it up and tank part of the drive. I doubt he will be laughing as hard when the repair bill comes.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: Rich jerks.

You did the right thing...friendly reminders will keep him thinking about it and he will really be kicking himself when his trailer falls off the deep part of the ramp from it being washed out by his prop.

There is a good animation that shows what happens if the ramp is not 80ft long like some army corp of engineers ramps down south.

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Rich jerks.

That little animation is a bit of an extreme.

As far as telling someone how to load their boat, sign or not, it's not your ramp or lake nor responsibility to tell them what to do. Around here, you tell someone what to do they're libel to come over and kick your *** or hurt you even worse. You offer to help someone but you don't offer your advice. Unasked for advice is usually not taken well.

I know you had the best of intentions and yes, this guy was wrong for not following the rules but if the ramp is too shallow or short, they need to fix that. There are some boats that if you don't power load them you rip the eye off the front trying to winch them up. I'm not saying this was the case with this guys boat as he obviously didn't care that he did wrong, but in some cases, especially with older party barges, it is the case. But telling others what to do can get you hurt because you don't know what kind of people they are.

And I doubt they were that rich.

 

[JB]

Re: Rich jerks.

I disagree, WITF.

The cool one did not tell the jerk what to do, he merely reminded him of the LAW. It was the right thing to do.

All that is necessary for jerks like that to continue their stupidity is for the public to do nothing and say nothing.

You done good, grasshopper.

 

[windsors03cobra]

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I disagree, WITF.

The cool one did not tell the jerk what to do, he merely reminded him of the LAW. It was the right thing to do.

All that is necessary for jerks like that to continue their stupidity is for the public to do nothing and say nothing.

You done good, grasshopper.

Quoted for the truth.

 

[fishrdan]

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Well, most likely Karma will come around and pay him a visit. Be it the DNR/police or something else that might happen... I saw a guy almost power load his boat into the bed of the truck once Heck it might not even be boat related, but it's funny how things like that come back around.

Oh yeah, I agree with JB too.

 

[waterinthefuel]

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Well, that's fine. Just don't come to Louisiana and offer your "advice" or you might leave our state in a body bag. They got some crazy mofo's around here. Of course we don't have any rules on how to load your boat around here so someone would look at you stupid if you told them that.

What LAW states how you can load your boat at a public lake?

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Rich jerks.

i idle load, trailer set up correctly, correct depth in the water. no problem.

coolguy, you did the correct thing. not sassy, or smart AXX.

 

[BWR1953]

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Well, that's fine. Just don't come to Louisiana and offer your "advice" or you might leave our state in a body bag. They got some crazy mofo's around here. Of course we don't have any rules on how to load your boat around here so someone would look at you stupid if you told them that.

What LAW states how you can load your boat at a public lake?

I don't agree with what coolguy did, but will point out that he says right in his post that there was a sign at the ramp forbidding power loading.

Sounds like LA is full of murderous thugs, eh?

 

[JB]

Re: Rich jerks.

"What LAW states how you can load your boat at a public lake?"

The authority that posted the sign mentioned by Coolguy represents the law.

While I am at it I need to mention that I have not experienced an excess of hostile jerks in Louisiana. Most of them have been friendly gentlemen.

 

[rjlipscomb]

Re: Rich jerks.

You did the right thing, a quick simple reminder or info. He may have mocked you at the time. But, he'll remember it next time and hopefully do it the right way. Good Job and Thank You.

 

[jkust]

Re: Rich jerks.

Lot's of people here in MN powerload against the rules. I see it the most with bunk trailers. I wouldn't but I tend to obey the laws and my roller trailer makes it so easy to load. It seems to be one of those rules people feel are optional and I don't understand why. Those same people do obey the no wake zone rules so I am not sure what the deciding factor is. I don't think it is a have and have not issue though. I am sure there are lots of poor jerks who would have reacted the same way and a nice boat certainly doesn't make someone rich. Maybe an elitist but not rich. In fact it was probably the most depreciated asset that the guy owned or maybe half his income goes to the payments and he actually drives home to his tiny travel trailer. No one likes to be reminded of when they are breaking the rules. If you are going to step up and do what you did, I would go into it with a thick skin.

 

[CheapboatKev]

Re: Rich jerks.

That little animation is a bit of an extreme.

As far as telling someone how to load their boat, sign or not, it's not your ramp or lake nor responsibility to tell them what to do. Around here, you tell someone what to do they're libel to come over and kick your *** or hurt you even worse. You offer to help someone but you don't offer your advice. Unasked for advice is usually not taken well.

Like..HEY THERE IS A HURRICANE COMING..LEAVE NOW????

It is HIS lake..and HIS ramp..his parents live there, pay county taxes...It belongs to the people of the boating community that CG is an important part of.



Cool Guy..

I give you props..at 15 (?) you showed more backbone than alot of people.
Do not worry about what those guys said..trust me they will remember your comment longer than you think and it may soak in.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: Rich jerks.

I don't agree with what coolguy did, but will point out that he says right in his post that there was a sign at the ramp forbidding power loading.

Sounds like LA is full of murderous thugs, eh?

ahem.... forbidding power loading for winch trailered boats.

i mean other than power loading. damage can be done to many other things. the parking system "drive" guess you would call it could break. the tow eye could bend and/or break. the trailer it self could receive damage.

even his friend moving the truck said" man you really jammed that thing on there" "well you got to get it on there somehow"

even if the tow eye shall break from winching like on barges? should it not be already built to withstand the of winching and trailering.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: Rich jerks.

what i meant by "rich" was that he gots the money.

he did light a cig when i was there might just get him one day...

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Rich jerks.

I don't agree with what coolguy did, but will point out that he says right in his post that there was a sign at the ramp forbidding power loading.

Sounds like LA is full of murderous thugs, eh?

Oh definitely not. But most people don't take too kindly to being told what to do, especially by a kid. If the OP is 15, then he's quite brave and probably a bit naive as to what can happen when you tell someone something like that. I've seen shouting matches from instances just like this that could have easily turned deadly if either party had had a gun. To say it only happens in Louisiana is a joke.

I still think that the OP had the best of intentions. I wish more people would speak up like he did, I just also pray for their safety when doing so.

It's not just here, but anywhere. You don't know if that guy has a dead body in that boat and you're telling him how to do things. He could have just gotten out of prison for murder. You just don't know. That's why you keep your lid shut and as long as life isn't in danger you do and say nothing. That's what I would do. If it looks like he needs help, offer help, but not opinions.

And JB, a sign isn't a law, its a rule. You cannot be given a ticket for a rule violation. There is a big difference.

 

[greggholmes]

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"And JB, a sign isn't a law, its a rule. You cannot be given a ticket for a rule violation. There is a big difference."

Yes you can...

RCW 79A.60.030
Operation of vessel in a negligent manner ? Penalty.


A person shall not operate a vessel in a negligent manner. For the purposes of this section, to "operate in a negligent manner" means operating a vessel in disregard of careful and prudent operation, or in disregard of careful and prudent rates of speed that are no greater than is reasonable and proper under the conditions existing at the point of operation, taking into account the amount and character of traffic, size of the lake or body of water, freedom from obstruction to view ahead, effects of vessel wake, and so as not to unduly or unreasonably endanger life, limb, property or other rights of any person entitled to the use of such waters. Except as provided in RCW 79A.60.020, a violation of this section is an infraction under chapter 7.84 RCW.

[2000 c 11 ? 93; 1993 c 244 ? 7; 1933 c 72 ? 2; RRS ? 9851-2. Formerly RCW 88.12.020.]

 

[PeterMcG]

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Around here, you tell someone what to do they're libel to come over and kick your *** or hurt you even worse.

Just don't come to Louisiana and offer your "advice" or you might leave our state in a body bag. They got some crazy mofo's around here.

To say it only happens in Louisiana is a joke...It's not just here, but anywhere.

coolguy, while I might have just been tossed from a boat that changed tack with out warning, I would agree to be cautious.
That being said, I applaud you saying something.
The defense of improper behavior often begins with, "Well, no one ever said a word about it to me, so I figured it was okay."

 

[Bucks45]

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Coolguy....I think you did the right thing too! If people would step up in other parts of life we wouldn't have a lot of the problems that we do. Nice job!