Rifle for Deer Hunting

[Jeff-in-PA]

Re: Rifle for Deer Hunting

Do they explode when impacted?

No, you get really good shooting at small rodents with your deer rifle. Then when you go out deer hunting, it's like shooting the side of a barn.



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mscher,
I would suggest either a .308 or .30-06 bolt action rifle. You're best bang for the buck will be a Savage. That "ugly" nut that locks the barrel in place also makes it one of the most accurate rifles right out of the box.

What ever you decide on, make sure you get plenty of trigger time at the range so you kill what you shoot at. Be a sportsman instead of a shooter.

Jeff

 

[mscher]

Re: Rifle for Deer Hunting

Please qualify a LONG shot. energy is the key.

Probably 250-300 yds max.

 

[aspeck]

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Are you talking head shots here?

Well, I do like my head shots, but a well placed lung/heart does the trick also. I actually have a better success rate with the smaller calibres, probably because I take more time and less "risky" shots. I hate a wounded animal and I like my animals dispatched as soon as possible.

The shoking power of a .220 Swift with 47 grain hollow point is quite deadly and the bullet will do amazing tissue damage (but probably not through and through penetration)!

I do not recommend small calibres for everyone, you better be patient and practice often, but in the right hands a small calibre rifle can be quite deadly for deer, and groundhogs, and turkey, etc.

 

[BWR1953]

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No, you get really good shooting at small rodents with your deer rifle. Then when you go out deer hunting, it's like shooting the side of a barn...

I wasn't talking about accuracy, I was talking about the effect that a .30-06 would have on a 10 pound groundhog.

 

[tswiczko]

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I remember buddy talking about the falkland war and how they could not use the rounds from the argintines fals because they didnt use the nato round

Originaly fn fal was chambered with .280 (7x43) in 53 NATO adopted the 7.62mm FN rechambered the fal to 7.62 the aussies used the L1A1 which the rifle is built to inch specs but is still chambered in 7.62 but not all the parts are interchangeable with the fal, they might have been some pretty old weapons

 

[rbh]

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Originaly fn fal was chambered with .280 (7x43) in 53 NATO adopted the 7.62mm FN rechambered the fal to 7.62 the aussies used the L1A1 which the rifle is built to inch specs but is still chambered in 7.62 but not all the parts are interchangeable with the fal, they might have been some pretty old weapons

That may be, but these hands only stroked FN C1/C2 A1, now what was that serial #????????

 

[Knightgang]

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That may be, but these hands only stroked FN C1/C2 A1, now what was that serial #????????

I still remember the serial number to my M-4 in Iraq. W093077. A number I will never forget...

 

[tswiczko]

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You could even get an old Mosin Nagant or Enfield for a couple hundred and have it drilled for rings for less than a hundred and a decent scope for two to three hundred and have a very reliable rifle.

 

[jiminmontana]

Re: Rifle for Deer Hunting: 300 Win Mag in flats

Re: Rifle for Deer Hunting: 300 Win Mag in flats

I love the 300. Shoots stupid flat. Sight it in for bullseye at 300 yrds. ANYTHING from you to 400 yrds. is an "aim straight on and squeeze".

I used a 30-06 for the first 40 yrs of life. Worked. But sometimes a monster is cresting a hill, trotting away. Time is against you and you want a lazer beam. Plus, the bullet has to cut through hams and hay to get there. Why limit yourself? Reload your own and knock the hell out of that critter.

Hornady SST or Bergers are the only ways to fly.

Go to http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_simp-5.0.cgi and print out your trajectory chart for your ammo, altitude, etc. Add a 10 mph cross wind so you know the expected max drift. Set for either 50 or 100 yrd increments depending on your caliber and expectations. Cut it out and TAPE it to the STOCK of your rifle. Then use a range finder in the field. Get a shoulder pad for the range. - a box of 300 Win Mags and you are shooting all over the place.

I have pics of a successful elk hunt in MT on my blog BELOW.

Happy hunting!

 

[rbh]

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I still remember the serial number to my M-4 in Iraq. W093077. A number I will never forget...

LN???????????? long stock, haha, changed MOC's they gave me a sterling SMG. AHHHH sweet. Then we got those m-16 things.

 

[Kiwi Phil]

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I am a fan of a particularly old rifle called the .303 which was used by the Brit and her Commonwealth Armies in WW1 and WW2.
I had both a SMLE and a Lee-Enfield, one a Mk1 of 1914? vintage, Mk3 of 1940?
The 1914 had a beautiful V sight, (best sight I have ever used).....the other a ring or hole sight.
For the girlie-boys, attaching a scope is easily done.
I did, but removed it. Shooting over 200 plus m over open sights is a breeze.
They are pretty much indestructable.
I had the wood remodeled.
Ammo was always cheap.
It will outlast your life, and every time it misses will be your fault.
They are not popular now....no whistles and bells.

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/gallipoli303.htm

I saw some program and I think they said there were 3 outstanding rifles:
from 1900.... the rifle I have just mentioned, then
the German Mauser (late 1890's) and the Russian (late 1890's but modified), both 7.62mm.

Many still use the .303 as a sniper weapon.

Cheers
Phillip

PS

I understand the power of a 7.62mm.
In the '70's our army still had the 7.62mm SLR, and take my word for it, hiding behind a rubber tree or a double brick wall was not guarantee of safety.

 

[muskyone]

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all guns mentioned are good guns I've killed allot of deer with a 06 my fil kills 3 or 4 every year with a .243. they all kill! i would go to a gun store hold them see what they feel like how heavy is it are you comfortable with it. are you rich can you buy a new one latter if you decide you don't like it after a few years.
just because i like carrying that heavy 06 doesn't mean you will. heck when i have the money I'm getting a .243 I'm getting old and don't feel the need to blow a 2ft hole in the deer.
just get something you comfortable with

 

[xxxflhrci]

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Do they explode when impacted?

I use 150gr Nosler Ballistic tips...They don't tear 'em up any worse than my .22-250 using .55gr Hornady V-Max bullets...Both sound like a football getting punted when you hit one.

 

[rbh]

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There was a time here when you could go to the local hardware store and they would have an old wiskey barrel full of lee enfield for $25 each, from what I gather lots of MK2,3,4 a couple of the shorter jungle variety, and if you were really lucky you could get the sniper weapon with the leather pad on the butt minus the scope.

 

[avenger79]

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the previous mentioned guns are all very nice BUT remingtons get very pricey very fast, weird calibers get pricey for ammo, other things are just odd.

i and my son both use 30 -06 for deer. very useful caliber and easy to get ammo. not expensive.

i have a ruger 30-06, wood stock blued barrel, leupold vari scope. very nice tack driver. it never misfires, and is very consistent at hitting the mark.
I bought my son a Mossberg 4X4 30-06, composite stock with a little cut out, a stainless barrel and mossberg scope. it is very reliable, and a tack driver for sure.

neither gun will win a beautiful gun of the year contest, but they are both very functional and attractive in a "real hunting gun" sort of way. Ok they were cheap, relatively speaking. both are bolt action. the mossberg seems to have slightly less recoil.

 

[xxxflhrci]

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A Remington 700SPS won't break the bank and will shoot just as good or likely better than a BDL sitting in a walnut stock.

Ain't nothing wrong with a Ruger, though. The current .22-250 I use is a Ruger and does a good job..........Right now, I have a line on a Ruger All Weather 77 in .30-06 that has been shot about 5 times. Asking price is 400. The owner is strapped for cash. I waiting on the price to drop a bit and am gonna snag it.

 

[Jeff-in-PA]

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I wasn't talking about accuracy, I was talking about the effect that a .30-06 would have on a 10 pound groundhog.

They don't go too far

 

[tswiczko]

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They don't go too far

Realy? I'd figure if you shot one with a .30-06 it'd at least do a couple of flips before it hit the ground

 

[xxxflhrci]

Re: Rifle for Deer Hunting

Realy? I'd figure if you shot one with a .30-06 it'd at least do a couple of flips before it hit the ground

Sometimes, they do.