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walleyehed

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By the way, Brad, I'll be in Wichita for newyears eve and day. If you'd like to have a cup, I'd meet ya somewhere, and I'd be willing to bring some paperwork of recorded RPM/EGT/CHT data with me if you'd like to get together.
 

imported_bjs

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sounds like a good deal.what time will you be in wichita? and what part of town?
 

walleyehed

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Well, my brother-in-law lives just east of the colusiem coming in on 135 from the north.<br />should be there just after noon maybe 1pm your time on Sat.<br />If you want to email me and give me a number I can call ya at, I'll give ya mine as well.<br />ktsander@st-tel.net
 

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Brad, we all hope you stay around. Theres no harm in stating a point, opinion or making a comparison. We're all here to learn. <br /><br />You are right about the rods. We do know at what point they give up. We learned it the hard way. The OMC V6 looper rods from 1993 & up (light rods) will give up at 9500 in a circle race motor. IE -- hard on, hard off. They stay together fine at 10,000+ in a drag motor -- hard on, feather off.<br /><br />The stock rods from the other OMC / BRP loopers (commonly refered to as the heavy rods) will stay together in both applications at 11,000+ rpm. So will the Merc rods. So far we havent found any weakness in the Yamaha rods to think they wont hold up as well. <br /><br />Youre also right about the pistons. While all the pistons are in fact aluminum, we wouldnt dream of turning the cast pistons like we do the forged. That being said, I do know of some folks turning the Vertex cast about 8000 with no problem. I wouldnt but they do. Actually I use forged pistons in everything I have. Regardless of rpm. But, every OE piston made today will have no problem at 6000 rpm. Think about it -- if the factory thought there was a problem with their cast piston and stock rod at 6000, why is the rev limiter set at 6700?<br /><br />Remember, 2 stroke outboards (compared to the Chevy) has no valves to hit the piston, no lifters to worry about, no push rods to bend or springs to break. There just aint a whole lot to a 2 stroke.<br /><br />As for the tach, youre right again. There are some outboard tachs on the market that dont read right. But the OMC / BRP tachs are regarded to be some of the most accurate ones around. Especially the OMC digital tach. Thats why its not unusual to find an OMC digital tach in a race boat with a Merc.<br /><br />I hope you and Kenny get together. Have one for me!
 

imported_bjs

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cool im glad someone sees things i do.i know theres good tachs i wish i could by one for my boat but i have a force motor.i wish i could get a yamaha motor.i dont thin kthe motoron my next boat will be a merc.ive talked to a lot of people that just dont like merc.period after they get a yammie or honda.ifs theres nothing in a 2 stroke why they so much$$$$$.i guess thats why they make big$$$$.are these 4 strokes very good motors dont see to many in kansas no emission laws yet on lakes.
 

Dhadley

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Well, if lakes go to laws based on strictly on emissions alone then 4 stroke motors are in trouble. The E-Tec's are cleaner than the 4 stroke outboards. And thats comparing new to new. Put 1000 hours on both and check them again. Then at 3000 hours. That would be interesting....
 

imported_bjs

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Ive heard pros and cons about 2's and 4's talked to a guy with a Honda 4 stroke says runs good lund boat.he had a merc.omptimax liked the motor but you have to run 27$ a gallon oil that can get $$$$$$.don't think i will go there.<br /> <br /><br /> happy holidays :cool: :cool: :cool:
 

walleyehed

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Hey Brad, I may have something of interest to you for that Force....Send me an email and we'll discuss it..<br />It would help you solve your RPM issues :) <br />And the drinks are on me....
 

Dhadley

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Did the Honda guy mention how much his oil costs? They tend to skip over that part....
 

imported_bjs

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no he sure did not i didnt think to ask him i dont think he was bad mouthing mercury.he just remembered how much oil was.and i think lund just uses honda i bet parts are $$$$$.ive owned a few honda dirt bikes.
 
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