rotten transom

thedodger

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Hi all i need help bad i have an 1975 16ft cuddy and have found that the transom is totally rotten the wood is like mulch and the previous owner filled the bloody cavity with peicesof wood and hard as nails its a mess.i know nothing at all about glass boats so all help in how to remove and renew the transom would be very much appreciated do i cut the whole thing off?<br />if so wont the sides spread out of true and how the hell do i rejoin it to the side i know im a bloody dill but pls some one HELP!!!!!
 

dkwalker

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Re: rotten transom

I don't know how handy you are with tools and projects but this is one of the most common topics on this forum. <br />Depending on your design, you may do it by taking the exterior skin off the transom, layering glass n ply inside the cavity (after you completely gut out the old stuff)- then put the old skin back over. Some glass and sanding to blend the seam around the transom to look like the rest of the boat and you're there.<br />Also, there is a product (SEACAST?)- you take the top off the transom, dig out all the rot, then pour this synthetic in... the existing fiberglass acts as a mold- I've been to their website and read the info there. 'fairly neat and tidy.<br /><br />do a search on this forum... you will find lotso' info on this topic.<br />I have a 19' o/b cuddy that needs the same therapy. After reading all there is here and understanding what's involved, it's not so scary.<br /><br />There is the possibility you'll get in there and learn the rot is into the stringers (they run longituinally under the floor and butt into the transom) -if so that makes the job more complicated but not impossible.<br /><br />I read a quote on here that went something like this- "It's scary to start, but you know you have only junk right now, so you have nothing to lose. 'cut 'er open and get started"<br /><br />For making that initial cut into the rear skin, you want that to be neat and fixable (although it is going to go all the way around)... I'd use a roto-zip myself. A circular saw set to 1/4" depth would probably be my next choice.<br /><br />Read on, mate. It's not so bad.
 

G DANE

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Re: rotten transom

Hi thedodger<br /><br />From my reading here i heard it can be done by removing the upper edge of transom (assuming this is an o/b version, and cutting the bad wood out, using a chainsaw. Do a search on chainsaw. The chainsaw cuts the wood far easyer than glassfiber and you can hear when you hit fiber. Leaves as well inner an outher skin. Now just slide new ply down, with wettet mat around. Clamp til it dryes out.
 

dkwalker

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Re: rotten transom

IMOH- I wouldn't build a house using a chainsaw, and I **** sure wouldn't use one on a boat, either. :rolleyes: :eek:
 

JasonJ

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Re: rotten transom

Another way you can do it is to remove outboard or I/O, whichever you have. Then you will need complete access to the transom. This is all done from the inside. If it is an outboard you need to remove the splashwell. This can be accomplished by either seperating the entire upper deck from the hull or cutting just the splashwell section out and re-glassing it in. You will then need to cut the floor about a foot back from the transom to expose the transom all the way to the hull bottom. Cut and remove all the old material out. If the stringers are okay, they can be left as is, but you have to make sure they will be able to butt up against the new transom. Once it is all cleaned out, you need to rough up all the inner surface of the transom skin and the hull bottom and sides. <br /><br />You will need to decide what material to use for the new transom. You can use pressure treated ply, but it MUST be completely dry. You can use marine grade, or you can use exterior grade plywood that is for home construction. You will need to assemble the transom in layers, building out to the original thickness. You can use construction glue and screws, but what I did was use a lot of resin and glass between my layers and screwed the layers together with stainless screws. You will have to clamp the transom in place by using bolts through all the layers. You can bolt through the drain hole areas and the tow eye areas and use clamps around the splashwell edge. You should lay a layer of heavily soaked mat on the inner surface of the transom shell before laying in the transom to help it bond to the outer shell, but the motor and tow eyes hold everything together after the fact as well.<br /><br />Once the transom is in place you need to glass the perimeter of it with heavy roving at least six inches out in every direction, then sheath it in with mat. Glass the stringer ends to the transom with heavy roving and mat. Lastly you have to close up the floor, making sure to use roving at the floor/transom juncture, and sheath it all with mat or cloth. You will also have to install new drain plugs as well. If you cut the splashwell out, that needs to be glassed back in as well. This was just a quick description of a way to do it. I personally do not like to cut the outer skin of a transom, I think it is too risky, but it has been done with success by braver souls than I. Good luck...
 

evin300

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Re: rotten transom

dkwalker, I dont think gdane was talking about building a boat or a house with a chainsaw, I think he was saying to use a chainsaw for the demolition phase of the project. Demoltion is whole lot different from construction IMHO. <br /><br />I have used a chainsaw on a boat with great sucess. You are not the first person to negate this idea, without ever trying it for yourself. ;)
 

moganman

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Re: rotten transom

I just did mine this past weekend. Do a search first and then figure out wich is the best for your situation. Then just do it. It is a very satisfying project.
 

1965MT

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Re: rotten transom

I was working on a remodelling job where we had to install 7 windows in a house in places that did not have windows. While I am inside waiting to catch the plug I heard a chainsaw fire up. The next thing I saw was the blade coming through the wall. Now that's exciting! The plugs were cut out in no time, the chainsaw cut through vinyl siding, studs, sheetrock, and anything else that got in the way... The point is that had we done the job the way I was familiar with then it would have taken all day to get the exact same result as about a half hour. <br />Big dogs use big toys and little dogs use little toys...
 

pinerider

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Re: rotten transom

Jason has the right method, might be a little difficult taking the top off with the cuddy - If you want a book to describe it in detail, you can get "Runabout Renovation" by Jim Anderson from amazon.com for $16.95
 

Boilermaker

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Re: rotten transom

I agree, Jason has the right idea. I did mine this summer (18ft outboard runabout). The first thing is to have the engine removed. I removed the rubrail rubber, and under that was ALOT of screws. They all come out. Then I used a "comealong" from an overhead support beam in my garage, attached to the cleats on the back corners of the topdecking. Take a little tension on the top, and work around the boat with a thin bladed puttyknife to separate the calking between the top & hull. Once thats clear, its realitivly easy to chop out the rotted wood with handtools>>>alot of mine just broke up with a large screwdriver and wood chisel. Anything that can get in there. But NO CHAINSAW>>>thats for the pros that do it all the time!!! Be careful, the fiberglass on the transome on my boat was only about a 1/4" thick>>>its all plywood. Remove ALL the wood from port to starboard!!! Don't only do where you have rot!!! Use QUALITY MATERIALS & Use heavy weight MATTING for the fiberglass!!!<br />Plenty of good websites for info.<br /><br /> http://www.fiberglass-repair.com/ <br /> http://capndsboatshed.com/pictures.htm <br /> http://www.fiberglassboattransoms.com/ <br /> http://www.fiberglass-repair.com/ <br /><br />Be carefull, go slow, and take precautions!!! <br />Don't be afraid to seek PROFESSIONAL HELP!!!Remember, your LIFE and the LIVES of anyone on the boat in the future will depend on the quality of the repair!!!
 

Hooty

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Re: rotten transom

Tell 'um Evin. I just used a chainsaw to remove parts of my transom and it worked just like Evin said it would. The chainsaw doesn't really like to cut fiberglass, but it will so just take your time and watch what you're doin'.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty<br /><br />p.s. Good hearin' from ya Evin, stay in touch.<br />Hooty
 

surlyjoe

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Re: rotten transom

Hi Yall! I am almost doone replacing the transom on my old Sea King f/g runabout. I was going to try the Seacast thing, but once I started digigng the old wood out I realized it wasn't all rotten and what was still solid was a bear to get out(yes I tried the chaunsaw =). I realized it was never going to be nice and clean with no wood in there, so I pulled the deck cap off and replaced the plywood with marine ply and epoxy/glass/carbon from the inside. It was actually easy access from behind the boat once the deck was off, and I am confident that the grinder got it nice and clean to laminate to.
 

Solittle

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Re: rotten transom

I would check the stringers before I started tearing into the transom to get an idea of the magnitue of the total project. I migh then do some big time cuttin with the chain saw.
 

KilroyJC

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Take a little time to use the <Search> button at the top for "Transom Repair" - you will find more than enough reading material on how people did different repairs, not to mention tips & tricks. A little research - especially on posts where people include or link to pictures - will go a long way toward a successful projuect.<br /><br />Good Luck!<br /><br />Take lots of pics!<br /><br />Matt M.<br /><br />Happy Thanksgiving!
 

deeep water

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Re: rotten transom

you dont have to use a chain saw ,,you can use a sawsall they have lots of diffrent types of blades and blade lengths ,,they cut smoother too
 
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