Rough idle - dies in gear - Please help!

eclipsme

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I have an Evinude 1971 60 hp, model 60173c, sn J10216, and would truly appreciate some help.<br /><br />The engine idles a bit rough, and when in the water will die as soon as it is put in gear. On the stand it seems like the 3rd cylinder is trying to fire, but only sometimes.<br /><br />The boat came with 2 gas cans. The one I happened to begin useing was full of sediment. The engine got harder and harder to start and would not stay running.<br /><br />I have replaced the tank, and the fuel looks clear, but after running for about 15 minutes, the engine still misses, and idles rough.<br /><br />I cleaned the screen, though it wasn't bad. The plugs are all dark and wet. Is this what is termed fouled? <br /><br />I first tried to clean and gap the plugs with no change, then replaced them with plugs that were supplied with the boat, though they are a different number. <br /><br />I have an Intertec manual that lists the plug as a champion QL77JC4. There is a sticker on the engine that calls for a L77J4, which is what I pulled out of the engine. The replacements are champion QL78YC.<br /><br />Is the Ql78YC a replacement plug? What is the difference?<br /><br />The new plugs run the same as the old. I have tried adjusting the slow idle mixture for each of the 3 cylinders, but the best I can get is all plugs firing occassionaly. I think it is basically running on 2 cylinders, with the 3rd firing intermittantly.<br /><br />I go back and forth thinking that the engine is starving, or flooding. Doesn't the wet plugs indicate too rich a mixture??? What should my next step be?<br /><br />Thanks for any help,<br />Harvey
 

Larryhdavis

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Re: Rough idle - dies in gear - Please help!

I was having a situation exactly the same as this, it just got worse, after backing away from the dock, the engine died, then as i restarted it, i couldn't get it to go in either forward or reverse. The switch in the control box does not show continuity in any position, yet jumping the connections don't change the situation either. I am definitely a newbie. Help please..
 

F_R

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Re: Rough idle - dies in gear - Please help!

I get easilly confused by plug numbers sometimes. But you should be using the QL77JC4 plugs. Pay no attention to wetness, all the old rules are out the door on this engine.

That motor has an ignition system that was state of the art in 1971, but really was sort of a pain in the butt. It isn't too good and would not fire the original plugs that were called for. Then they came out with the L77J4 plugs that really brought new life into those motors. The newest version is QL77JC4. Use them.

Everything else in the system has to be right up to snuff if you expect it to run. That includes the coil, distributor cap, rotor, breaker points, reverse cut-out ring, spark plug wires, and everything else. What I'm saying is just fixing one thing won't get it.
 

Larryhdavis

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Re: Rough idle - dies in gear - Please help!

The information you submitted today is a help but doesn't help my situation fully, i still can't get it into gear. That's is the major point, and i am not sure where to begin.
 

thomassargent

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Re: Rough idle - dies in gear - Please help!

Had the same problem. Took the carb apart and cleaned everything and adjusted the idle screw... 1/4 turn made all the difference. Runs fine now. Good luck!
 

steelespike

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Re: Rough idle - dies in gear - Please help!

From your history a good carb rebuild is in order.Also be sure the system is clean and all connections and quick connects are good.Get a spark tester and check the spark, should jump 3/8 of an inch.
 
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