Rude Jetskiers

KeyWestBoater

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Last Saturday we went fishing in Sisters's Creek by Mayport. We were anchored close to a grassy area by the bank. Some jet-skiers kept buzzing back and forth, back and forth. Not even slowing down or trying to give us a wide berth even though they were aware of us and saw our angry looks. They had the rest of the river but had to ruin our fishing and we moved somewhere else. I'm not saying all jet-skiers are rude and they are certainly entitled to use the waterways but they should excercise the same courtesy as any other vessel. For some reason they seem to think they're entitled to buzz anywhere they want! What do you think?
 

rndn

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

I can honestly say that in all of my boating years your experience is the norm instead of the exception. I don't know if because of the cheap entry level price of jetfleas, the usual operator is younger and less responsible?? It may also be that on a jetflea there is nothing else to do but to buzz around and around. At least in my neck of the woods, the authorities are really cracking down on these things. We have laws that you can only go so fast within so many feet of another boat.
 

Geo2008

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

I can honestly say that in all of my boating years your experience is the norm instead of the exception. I don't know if because of the cheap entry level price of jetfleas, the usual operator is younger and less responsible?? It may also be that on a jetflea there is nothing else to do but to buzz around and around. At least in my neck of the woods, the authorities are really cracking down on these things. We have laws that you can only go so fast within so many feet of another boat.



I had three jet skis with kids on them suddenly cut perpendicular in front of me last Saturday while I was cruising at 3/4 throttle, it could have ended badly if I was not watching them carefully. I had to quickly cut hard right and reduce throttle.

One of the three actually fell off the jet ski.

I could almost hear them say "Look mom! no brains!"

Geo
 

BamaAlum97

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

I think one of the draws to a jetski is the low cost and the ability to zip around in smaller spaces...

I used to own one and I'd like to think that I was more considerate than the average user...however as I have gotten older, I have been less tolerant of them.

What I really hate is when we are pulling a tube, and some idiot starts whipping around where we are. Drives me nuts!
 

Randy169

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Almost all of them drive the same way. Looking back at the way they just came.

I guess that comes in the manual...

It's good that licenses are being required for water craft - it'll give the water cops a little more bite.
 

arboldt

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

There are a lot of jet skis on our lake, and for the most part everyone drives them reasonably.

There are a couple people that pull their kids on a tube without a spotter. That really bothers me. It also bothers the county sherriff on boat patrol, and after he talks with them, they don't do it again.

The biggest issue is with occasional visitor that doesn't know our lake ... or normal boating etiquette. One Saturday last summer there were a couple folks with jet skis that buzzed around between people's docks and swim rafts. They also buzzed around within 20' of shore. Now there's lots of state laws against that sort of thing, but the biggest issue for them will be later. On our lake, that close, you're in may 6"-8" of water. Those jets had to be sucking sand big time, and jet pumps and impellers really don't like sand. When we saw them beaching the jet skis at the public beach, we knew they had no clue to how they were destroying their craft.
 

tommays

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

It was a big problem BUT with enforcement of the rules it has become no more of a problem than any other idoit with a boat
 

bishop1976

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

A 410 loaded with Rat Shot will move them on down the river. Works for me.
 

jay_merrill

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I truly wish that I could report that my experience with jetski operators has been no better or worse than with operators of regular boats. Sadly, that is not the case - I have found that jetski operators tend to be much more immature, reckless and unconcerned with the needs of others. If I were a wildife & fisheries agent, or a marine patrol officer, they would most certainly get a lot of attention from me.
 

bekosh

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

I can't recall ever having any problems with Jet skiers, fisherman on the other hand:mad:. They may have a boat, but they don't seem to be interested in being boaters. The boat is just another tool for their hobby. People who own cruisers/cuddies, the Go-fasts and even most of the Sea Fleas, are out there to boat, so they usually learn how-to boat and follow the rules of the road.

The biggest problems I've seen are improper or no lights or anchoring/trolling in the middle of the channel, especially around bridges and on the river.

I couldn't tell you the number of times I've been cruising down the river and come around a bend to find some guy anchored in the middle of the channel with a pole out.:mad:

Learn the rules of the road people! Remember, when on the water, you are a boater first, fishing or any other activity is a distant second.

<RANT OFF>:redface:
 

ddennis

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Some fishermen, yes. But not all of us. Some jetski operators are bad, some are not. Calling all of them bad (fishermen and jetfleas) would be like me saying all people from Wisconsin are cheeseheads! Obviously just being from Wisconsin does not make you a cheesehead...just because you fish or jetski does not make you an irresponsible operator.
 

bekosh

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Some fishermen, yes. But not all of us. Some jetski operators are bad, some are not. Calling all of them bad (fishermen and jetfleas) would be like me saying all people from Wisconsin are cheeseheads! Obviously just being from Wisconsin does not make you a cheesehead...just because you fish or jetski does not make you an irresponsible operator.
Exactly. There are rude and obnoxious individuals in all walks of life. But it does seem that as a group fishermen seem to be less interested in the boating aspect of the hobby. When I took the Power Squadron course, there were people with cruisers, sailboats, runabouts, go-fasts and even one PWC owner, but no one with what I would consider a dedicated fishing boat. Does that mean anything?? Probably not, but it does make me wonder what percentage of fisherman vs other boaters, take the time for the safety class.:confused:


By the way, I'm proud to be a Cheesehead. Go Packers!:D
 

KeyWestBoater

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

In my earlier post I didn't say all jetskiers, I said "some". However you said fisherman aren't interested in boating and knowing the rules. This statement is very general and I think absolutely not true. Sure there are those in in all types of watercraft that don't know or care about boating rules. If you take a poll I believe you will find that the majority of complaints of reckless maneuvering and not exercising courtesy involve jetskiers. In our area we hear about more accidents, injuries or deaths involving jetskiers than any other craft. Because they are so fast and maneuverable and are usually operated by very young folks they tend to feel bulletproof and can get out of trouble easily. For all of you jetskiers who operate them responsibly, I salute you and wish there were more of you.
 

45Auto

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My experiece has been exactly the same as bekosh's. Around here there is a huge difference between "fishers" and "boaters". Seems that as a general rule the "fishers" are much less aware of boating rules, regulations, and common courtesy. The boat is just a means to get to where the fish are, and they have very little interest in the "boating" aspect of the sport.

Could be that I notice it because I'm just the opposite - have no interest whatsoever in fishing, but love boating!
 

bekosh

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OK you're right. I should have included the caveat's.
To make it clear, in my experiance, there seems to be a larger percentage of fisherman, compared to other types of boaters, that do not take the time to learn about and practice safe boating.


BTW KeyWest, nice sig photo.
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jay_merrill

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I can't disagree with bekosh or 45auto in regard to fishermen. I have certainly seen plenty of fishermen doing dumb things, and one of the most outrageous sitation that I have run across was actually caused by a major tournament fishing organization - B.A.S.S.

About five years ago, they held a tournament here in Louisiana, with all boats launching at a place called Bayou Segnette. They had many fishermen entered and all were operating sponsored bass boats with very large outboards on them. These boats were routinely being operated at speeds up to about 70 mph, in the narrow canals and waterways between Segnette State Park and the prime fishing grounds in lower Barataria Bay. I was nearly run over by three of them one day when they were returning to the ramp. All three came around a blind turn in the bayou, in the rain and at an extrememly high speed. Two of the boats made an evasive manuever to my port side and one did the same to starboard. All three of the drivers were operating the boats with their heads turned slightly downwards because of the stinging rain.

I have mentioned in a couple of threads that I participate in SAR operations with the U.S. Coast Guard and the La. Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries, from time to time. Although the boating activities involved tend to vary quite a bit, I can tell you that, almost universally, the SARS that quickly evolve into body recovery missions, result from bad decision making by those who were lost. Whether the deaths resulted from failure to wear a PFD, reckless operation, failure to check weather, operating a boat beyond its capabilities, or turning a fishing show into a boat race, because you can only watch a person with a rod in his hand for so long before it gets boring, most of the victims died through simple failure to think about what they were doing.

I don't have anything against jetski operators or fishermen in general, but I do wish both (along with everyone else) would truly consider the possible result of their actions before they get into/onto that watercraft.

PS: To be fair, I have not had to respond to a fatality linked to a fishing tournament. I can say, however, that the same event that I just spoke of, resulted in a back injury to a journalist who was riding in one of the boats. The operator drove through a tugboat wake at high speed, causing the boat to become all or partially airborne. When it slammed back into the water, the journalist sustained a spinal compression injury.
 

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

I agree with all of you, there are bad apples in every barrel. some barrels happen to have more bad ones than others. Yes, there are a lot of absolutely oblivious fishermen out there. However I must take pride when I say I am not one, and thankfully I only know of one who IS oblivious...but then again he is oblivious to most of life's rules of common sense and 90% of mans laws as well.

In regards to the B.A.S.S tourney.. I don't think they are disregarding the laws and rules of safe boating. They are focused on one thing and one thing only....a PAYCHECK! Money has a way of making you oblivious. I had the privilege of being on the water near some B.A.S.S pro's who were pre-fishing here in the ATL area. I found them to be extremely courteous while boating...that all changed like flipping a switch when the real tourney started.

All that being said... my kids (and Wife!) have mentioned us getting a jetflea or 2 for them...I am STRONGLY resistant to the idea, mainly because of past experiences with jet skiers. I am trying to convince them to let us get either a larger boat (fish and ski) or a second boat (pontoon) and teach them to properly operate it instead. Both my daughter (14) and my wife have been taught proper boat safety, courtesy, and how to read and understand all markers and bouys...and all we have (for now!) is an 18 foot bass rig! My son on the other hand (9) only knows how to start the outboard and get to a dock for help, and basic safety.. Boating is a family thing for us..not just a fishing thing for me. It just happens that we fish more than we recreational boat..but usually do both at the same time. Most bass rigs have more hours on the trolling motor than the outboard. Mine is about even!
 

shorts&chanclas

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and teach them to properly operate it instead.

That's the solution right there..if there is one. Its all about boater education. Jetskis are the "plug and play" of the boating world. You hit the start button, pull the throttle and you're off. No skill, experience, or knowledge needed to do that.
 

FlyTSi

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That's the solution right there..if there is one. Its all about boater education. Jetskis are the "plug and play" of the boating world. You hit the start button, pull the throttle and you're off. No skill, experience, or knowledge needed to do that.
Yeah but if its anything like Windows "plug and play" it will cause crashes. :)
 

Chinewalker

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Re: Rude Jetskiers

I'd be willing to bet that $4.00 a gallon gas will cut their numbers a bit. There are a LOT of jet ski type vehicles by the roadside up here with for sale signs on them... and they're not moving very fast as yet.
- Scott
 
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