Running 1971 25hp Johnson at higher elevation lakes +3500’

davidmbv

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Hello, I am the proud owner of a 1971 25hp Johnson. I am planning on using it to fish higher lakes in the Sierra Nevada’s soon and was told by a local mechanic that the motor may have issues idling and running good once I get up in elevation. He mentioned I may need to re-jet the carb or the other option he suggested would be to get a smaller prop. Have any of you folks had any experience running these old 2 strokes at higher elevations?
If I look for a smaller prop to purchase, are they even available? Any recommendations on size?
Also, I don’t mind changing the jets out if I know I’ll be exclusively running high lakes this summer. Are the jets even available anymore ? Size?
my boat is a 1976 Welded Gregor aluminum boat. I’ve added some plywood for flooring so has a bit extra weight but still relatively light. Tiller steering pull start.
Thanks in advance for any shared wisdom. I’m really pumped on this motor and it’s been fun learning to tinker on it. I may have few more questions soon as I’m dealing with a bit of a fuel issue but I think me cleaning the carb, new tank and lines, and fuel pump should solve the issues.
...Oh and also, I just acquired a large bucket to tune it at home(not on the lake). I read to adjust the low speed idle needle/ jet, it needs to be warmed up and in gear. Can I still get it close just adjusting it in neutral? Before I cleaned the carb it liked running with the needle only turned out 1/4 turn. I noticed the end of the needle was bent and I straightened it out ever so slightly. I haven’t ran it since I’ve cleaned it and will need to adjust again. Also, I’m Not planning to engage the prop in the bucket.
thanks
Dave
 

davidmbv

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What is the number on the high speed jet now ?
What is the number on the high speed jet now ?
I’m assuming it’s the stock jet but I’ll pull the carb in next few days to confirm. I just ordered a rebuild carb kit and plan to replace the seals soon and I’ll check then. I’m guessing the jet is stamped? If not, then I’m not sure but guessing it’s original size.
Attached a few pics of the motor. I did some bodywork on the cowling and had decals made up. The original placards were torn up but they matched images of a 1971. That’s why I’m guessing it’s a 71.
 

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oldboat1

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original for a '71 would be 72D -- .072" Might call up to the location to see what is recommended there.

Nice job on hood detailing!
 

racerone

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Those jets are not just used on 1971 models.----If yours has 72D-----Then 71D and 70D are available.----Find a helpful shop.
 

oldboat1

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^^would make sense, although the 72D is listed at a reputable sister site for the '71 model.

Anyway, I would contact a shop up in the high country and see what they recommend.
 

tbfosback

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I lived at higher elevation for many years. My home town is over 3800' elevation. Mountain lakes over 5500' . I never saw a need to change the jets in my outboards. Just leaned out the carb adjustments a tad..
 

davidmbv

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Great thanks. I’ll give it a go soon and see how it runs up high. I just figured out what one issue that was causing it to run poorly lately, after running flawlessly the last few weeks. After changing the fuel lines, tank, primer bulb, cleaning and rebuilding the carb, checking the jets( high speed is stamped 72), throttle linkage adjustment, low speed needle adjustments, new fuel pump, kill switch wires, ..it was still popping and not running correctly.... I finally broke down and swung it by a new shop near my house. The mechanic noticed it was only firing on one cylinder and the second was interment. He was thinking it could be dirty points and pulled the flywheel. He discovered the ground on one coils was basically fried and the one coil was fried/melted and not functioning properly. He ordered two new ones for approx 50$ and should hopefully be up and running tomorrow. It’s been a fun project and I’m grateful I found a shop nearby that was willing to help me out on short notice. Next it looks like I’m going to need to learn more about the ignition system etc. I’ve been reading a bunch of old posts from this forum and am learning a lot about this outboard.
Thanks again for everyone’s feedback. I appreciate the suggestions. It’s a fun old motor.
 
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