Rusted and rounded aft engine nuts on a johnson V4

spybot

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Trying to remove the 2 aft nuts on a V4 Johnsoon
Its the 2 that are under the exhaust plate you have to access them under the cowling.
On my motor the are rusted and rounded
How can i get them off
Any ideas ???
Plus i have 2 snapped head bolts The heads twisted right off having to drill these out
Tried hitting the head in all directions but it will not move.
 

boobie

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For the ones under the exhaust plate try a small vice grip pliers and some heat. For the head, try a bigger hammer.
 

F_R

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Are those nuts 1/2" wrench size? Oft times, a 12mm Metric wrench is just enough smaller to fit the rusted inch-size ones.
 

racerone

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??----Drill them from the side and split them.----They will fall on the floor.----Hopefully the powerhead will then lift off.
 

oldrem

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Is there enough clearance to get one of these in there? I've used this type for years with good success:

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Are you wrestling with the two nuts at the rear that thread onto the studs holding the powerhead on? If you are, the 12mm 6-point wrench has saved my hide many times. If that fails, get out the drill as racerone suggested.
 

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Post # 1 says what the struggle is.---Clearly those 2 nuts at the back.---Easy to resolve in my opinion.
 

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Victory guys
I managed to get the dremmel flex shaft in with single cut burr.
Put a side on it then spanner and chisel to get them out.
 

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im on my 3rd dremel in the past 35 years...an indispensable tool
 

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Maybe I missed it, but did you get the cylinder head off ??
 

spybot

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Maybe I missed it, but did you get the cylinder head off ??

Nope head still stuck 2 snapped easy outs where the bolt heads used to be :(
One of the power head long bolts has snapped the head off port side nearest the front.
I can get it out by drilling just under the cowling pulling the power head off. I have reached the stage where i regret starting to strip this motor.
If i could get away with leaving the snapped bolts as is and just reassemble it and use it for this summer i would do it.
But having two head bolts snapped off is a bit dodgy (Even though i cant budge the head with a 5lb mallet)
 

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Easy Outs. There ain't no such thing. It ain't easy, and they won't get it out. Try and you bust them off and then you have a REAL problem. They should be outlawed.
 

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Yeah im with you on that F_R
Now i have hardened steel to try and get out.
I know that alum disintegrates steel and leaves the alloy alone.
But that will take a few weeks to work. I need the heads off today.
I will get the power head bolt out first then tackle the heads once she is on the bench. Do you know if the bottom cowl will drop over the midsection a couple of inches ?
 
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Joe Reeves

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Those two nuts.... If heat and a metric wrench won't remove them, use a thin long chisel taping them in a off counter clockwise direction.
 

spybot

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I got the nuts off with a dremmel and chisel and spanners Joe
What im with is the head has 2 broken of bolt heads which now have 2 snapped easy outs in them
Plus the long power head bolt with its head snapped off. I want to lower the bottom cowling so i can drill horizontally in just below where the threads enter the power head. Then hopefully lift the head off.
 

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You can lower it a bit by taking bolts out for the 4 mounts.-----Or cut it at the front and back so it will fall on the floor in 2 pieces.
 
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