S-80 M80 Tester

lpkirby

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What is a s-80 m-80 tester and where can I find one?<br /><br />Thanks
 

lpkirby

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

ok I went to the link, is there not another way to test the electrical system? The tester s-80 is $150.00.
 

lpkirby

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Trent,<br />I am not sure what you are asking me? But Ill try, my motor is running just needs a tune up and carb job. My Manual said I need this tester to test the system. I really do not wont to buy it if I dont really need it now. I guess at some point and time I will need one. Is there any used ones around, and if so how much do they run? If not much difference Ill buy the new one.<br /><br />I hope this make sense,
 

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Im asking Make, Model and year. I might be able or someone else to lead you in the correct direction?
 

lpkirby

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

OH SORRY,<br /><br />1974 115hp Johnson model number 115ESL74B
 

Trent

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Clanton is correct as usual. The following is some troubleshooting tips that might help???<br /><br /> CAUTION; DO NOT USE A MAINTENANCE FREE BATTERY WITH THESE TYPES OF IGNITIONS AS THEY TEND TO OVERCHARGE AND BLOW THE PACKS.> Typically 17 Volts +. <br /> <br />Note: A large portion of the problems with the battery CD units are caused by low battery voltage or bad ground connections or high battery voltage. Low Voltage symptoms are weak erratic firing of cylinders. Misfiring after a few minutes of running can be caused by excessive (Over 15.5 Volts DC) voltage at the pack - See #2 below. <br /> <br />1) Check all battery and ground connections. <br /> <br />2) Check the Voltage on the red (or purple) wire at the CD unit. <br />If the voltage is less than 9 1/2 volts during the cranking there is a problem in the battery circuit. These units require at least 9 1/2 volts to fire properly. Connect a jumper wire directly from the battery (+) terminal to the red (or purple) wire. Retest. ATTENTION: In order to kill the engine if it cranks, the jumper wire must be disconnected and/or choke the engine. If the engine still fails to crank, recheck voltage as above. If low, replace the battery and retry. WARNING: Check he voltage on the red (or purple) wire at the CD unit through the RPM range. At no time should the voltage exceed 15.5 Volts DC. <br /> <br /> <br />3) Disconnect points and/or sensor wire and connect a battery tester. <br />Hook up the Battery CD Tester according to the operators manual and align rotor with spark plug wire. Connect a spark gap to all spark plug wires and turn the ignition switch on. If the CD unit fires only to one spark plug wire, check the points, sensor, anti-reverse spring and wires for breaks and shorts. If ANY other spark plug wire fires besides the one the rotor is aligned with, the distributor cap and rotor should be replaced. The Battery CD tester will fire the system to approximately 3000 RPM. If the Battery CD tester (511-9701) is not used, strike points wire against engine ground. For the sensor, strike the two wires together. The CD unit should fire every time. If the CD unit fails to fire, it is usually bad. <br /> <br /> <br />4) Points type ignition. <br />Disconnect points wire and check voltage on the points wire. You should read close to battery voltage with the key switch on. No voltage means a bad pack. If OK, reconnect the points wire. Using the piercing probes (511-9770) connect the DC volt meter to the points wire. Turn the switch on and slowly rotate the flywheel. You should see the voltage fluctuate up and down. <br /> <br /> <br />5) Check the ignition coil. <br />An open, cracked or poorly grounded coil can burn out a battery CD unit. <br /> <br /> <br />6) Check the DVA voltage on the primary input wire to the coil.
 

dpminc

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Is a 74 still battery cd, I thought 74 was the first year of the pp1 cdi. If your motor has one coil for each spark plug, you have a pp1 which is self powered through charge coils on the stator. These systems must be checked with a peak reading voltmeter. If it has only one coil, and a distributor cap under the flywheel, you have a battery cd, and the above is good info.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Dpminc.... The Battery Capacitance Dischage ignition system existed from 1968 (55hp) through the 1972 models (OMC). The OMC Magneto Capacitance Discharge sytems came into existence in 1973.
 

Franki

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Hi guys, <br /><br />I have a 100ESL72 and after reading this I am wondering if its a good idea to hook the dash voltmeter up to the red/purple wire on the motor so I could monitor the voltage to the pack...<br /><br />My pack is an aftermarket CDI pack (cdi being the brand, not the type.)<br /><br />Is it a good idea to do this??<br /><br />I really want to monitor my OB really well so I have added a temp sensor to both banks and put two guages in the dash, left and right bank..<br /><br />So in the same spirit, if I can monitor the pack voltage it would also help me feel more secure on the water..<br /><br />The only thing I haven't added is a water pressure, but I figure the temp guages will provide warning of overheading...<br /><br />Can I hook my dash voltage guage permanently to the red/purple wire?? <br /><br />regards<br /><br />Franki<br /><br />PS, Why do maintanence free batteries overcharge???
 

lpkirby

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Ok now I am confused... from dpminc message.. my motor does have 4 coils? So what kind of system do I have, pp1 cdi?? Joe or who ever reads this can you tell me what kind of system I indeed do have. Thanks
 

clanton

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Do you have a manual that matches this engine?<br />Waste of your money to buy then S-80 or M80 tester. Your system is a stator driven cdi with 1 power pack with termials. OMC may have called this PP1(powerpack one). You can use a multimeter<br />to check the the stator output, pack output, trigger output, set to AC take reading X 1.414 should get you close. If you are going to do a lot of this work I would recommend a meter with peak reading adapter, or a peak reading meter,
 

lpkirby

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

Thanks Clanton,<br />That clears things up for me. I do have a SELCO but it covers so many motors. Is the OMC repair manual better if I can get one?
 

clanton

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Re: S-80 M80 Tester

The original OMC manual the best, but you should be able to get some use from the Seloc. I may have gave you the incorrect number to X by, Trent will probley look at this and give you the correct number.
 
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