Same 1990 200 hp looper

[RetNav]

Was told that my motor would be ready today at noon, went to pick it up and the mechanic met me. I knew something was up! He asked what was the motor doing before you brought it in? I told him it was running good, had a slight miss at idle and the compression was 80 psi on all except # 4 which was 50 psi. He then asked are you sure it didn't stop running? I told him yes it did, about the time I turned the key off. Why? Well it won't even fire now. He checked the stator and says it is dead and is blaming it on loose magnets. I can feel it coming!

 

[Dhadley]

Re: Same 1990 200 hp looper

I'd be more worried about the 50 lbs compression right now.

 

[rickdb1boat]

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RetNav <br /><br />If I were you, I would see MYSELF going, to another Mech.!!

 

[RetNav]

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Dhadley, that is the reason it was in the shop, they are in the process of rebuilding the powerhead, in fact it is supposed to be completed. No fire was found when trying to start it up to check it out after the rebuild. Rick, as you can see, for the time being, I am stuck in that shop until they complete the job, $$$$$ in other words. IF, when they get it running I won't even buy a stainless screw at that place. Choice of shop is limited here and they are the newest owners (old store) and biggest in the area. What to do?

 

[RetNav]

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I wonder if the magnets could have been broken in pulling the flywheel? If so, it doesn't seem like the stator could have been damaged/destroyed without running. All I have left is no confidence in the mech, how much more $$$, changing parts to trouble shoot is costly, and in the meanwhile they have me boat hostage!!!

 

[OBJ]

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RetNav....anybody here will hate to second guess a mech without seeing the parts unless it's a blatent screw up. That's the way it is.<br /><br />Did YOU see the lose/damaged magnets? <br /><br />Yes..the magnets can be damaged if the right puller is not used. But no one here can say what happened when the mech doing the job pulled the flywheel.<br /><br />I sure wish we could be of more help.

 

[RetNav]

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OBJ<br />The motor was running and switched off with the key last thing before taking to the shop. Hasn't been run until after the rebuild. Then no fire and told me the magnets had to have killed the stator. I did see the magnets and they were loose and broken in places. The breaks looked fresh, not discolored in any of the broken areas. I guess my only option is to keep paying until they get enough. Not much of an option. Thanks for the response.

 

[marinegrh]

Re: Same 1990 200 hp looper

why not reglue the magnets yourself, its not hard, need some popsicle sticks and the glue and magnets, forget paying the labor, save yourself some $$$$, were all the magnets broken,i highly doubt it, buy only the ones you need, treating the flywheel consists of just sanding out the old glue, its a 2 part mix,

 

[RetNav]

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P.S.<br />Hey you guys, I guess i am just venting as I know how the motor was before the rebuild and don't have much choice but to grin and bear it. And not to forget the lesson learned. I really thought about buying a rebuilt powerhead from this site for a long time before deciding to go the route I went. As I have seen many times on various posts "you pay your money and you take your chances". Thanks again.

 

[RetNav]

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Marinegrh, <br />The magnets, Six of them, were all broken and just replacing them was not the main problem. The main problem is after getting everything together, including the magnets, now it won't fire on any cylinder. The rebuild hasn't been completed as the engine won't run. I don't see any other option available to me, right?

 

[marinegrh]

Re: Same 1990 200 hp looper

how in the world did all 6 magnets break, wow, thats incredible, unfortunately i dont like to hear that any more than you do, when they broke, did they damage the stator, or break the windings? why not got aftermarkey with the stator, its cheaper and just as good as oem, rapair.com chech there <br />goog luck<br /><br />fair wind and following seas

 

[marinegrh]

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where in georgia are you, im lik 20 minutes from the line in florida

 

[RetNav]

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marinegrh<br />I live in Valdosta, about 18 miles north of the line.

 

[rickdb1boat]

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RetNav <br /><br />I did not know from your first post that they were rebuilding the powerhead. I assumed it was at the shop because of running problems due to external problems. I feel for you on this one, too. Seems to me that if it ran when you took it in, the problem with the magnets occurred after it got there. Unfortunatly, that may be hard to prove at this point. I guess you will have to bite the bullet this time or pull out now and do it yourself. Then you have the problem of warranty on the rebuilt powerhead if you do decide to take it out of there now. I'm betting they won't honer anything if they don't hear it fire up and run right the first time. Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best of luck.

 

[RetNav]

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Rick<br /><br />I believe you have the same picture I have. You are right, the in all probability, would not honor anything. I can hear them now saying, "well if you hadn't taken it out of here before the job was complete this or that would not have happened." I will try to see it through with the thoughts that if they ever finish replacing parts the entire motor should be in pretty good shape.

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: Same 1990 200 hp looper

Exactly my thoughts! Sometimes you just have to see it through, no matter how much it hurts. Good Luck and I hope it works out.

 

[clanton]

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I fail to understand how he disassemble the engine for rebuild with out seeing the stator and magnets in the flywheel.

 

[RetNav]

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clanton,<br /><br />He did find the broke magnets shortly after he pulled the flywheel. The stator didn't look damaged and the motor was running immediately prior to taking it to the shop for rebuild due to low compression. Running good with a slight miss at idle. He replaced the magnets but didn't check the stator until complete reassembly and found it wouldn't fire on any cylinder. That is the point we are at currently. Hope this helps to clarify a little. thanks for reply.

 

[clanton]

Re: Same 1990 200 hp looper

If all of the magnets were replaced, I would insure the notch on corner of the magnets are all facing the same direction, and the center hub magnet was ok. The OMC 35 amp stators wimp out with changes of the moon, and magnets and stators have always been a problem. I would also want to know if they used loctite on the stator and upper main bearing screws.