Shake down not good and advice?

[capthook]

Re: Shake down not good and advice?

The little ball was in the carb but I could not get it out. Is it supposed to be free or is this a little of the issue as well? Also what are the differences between a auto carb and marine besides the antivent gaskets?

 

[thunderroad]

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The ball should be free. retodd said it was an inlet check ball. If it's stuck it sounds like fuel can't get into the accel pump.

 

[capthook]

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As I watch the thorttle open I get a nice steady stream. But I may have messed up the throttle linkage when I took off the carb. If I dont get it running by Sunday she is going to the shop. I just get so frustrated when I cant fix something. Its almost like a let down. Oh well better safe then soory I guess. At least the will be able to get it purring like a kitten for me.

 

[tie_one_on]

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Marine carb have overflow vents that direct excess/overflow fuel down the carb throat into the intake rather than over the side of the carb and onto the engine. Usually can tell because these overflow tube are "j" shaped pointing down the carb throat.<br />Good luck, hope you get it fixed yourself. Always makes you feel better.

 

[capthook]

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Well here is something very odd. I can pull the rear two spark plug wires and the engine will remain running without change. I am now going to put on new wires and see what happens next. I know everyone is probably out boating it up. So everyone enjoy and be safe.

 

[retodd]

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Originally posted by retodd:<br /> I could be waaaaay of but in my best recollection, both the timing light and the trigger for your tach get their impulse from the #1 spark... Seems way too odd for you to have lost both of these at the same time. More likely cause is in the ignition itself.

 

[capthook]

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So I guess what you are saying is to replace wire or the whole distributor? Please elaborate a little more for me I am a little on the slow side. LOL

 

[capthook]

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Well found something interesting. I now have no spark coming from the coil except when I turn the ignition key to start or off. It will not spark when I am trying to turn it over. What gives with this. I tried tracing it in the manual and I found a blown fuse but that is it. Any ideas?

 

[capthook]

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These events have taken place in the past 24 hours. Replaced coil, condensor, rotor, spark plug wires, spark plugs, have a new carb but this is an automotive carb but almost identical to mine afraid to put it on and go KABOOM, now have no spark at the coil only when turning the key on and off will I get spark when ground straight from the coil,Tach stopped working durning troubleshooting "Possibly the cuse for no spark" What now? Should I admitt defeat and send her to boat yard? Or bite the bullet and let the Pros take care of it. She is a 30 year old boat having trouble justifiying to spend the money. Buy looking at her you would not be able to tell how old she is. URRRRRR! "It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required". Sir Winston Churchill. I think that this fits my dilima.

 

[capthook]

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Anyone here to help today?

 

[capthook]

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Well I am going to be taking my boat in Monday. I am lost. I checked last night and I was getting 5 volts to the coil 12 to the started 12 to the altenator 12 at the key switch. I took at my fuse panel and filed the connections and was ablt to get a lot of stuff working that would not work. I jumped the coil from the battery and got a thick strong spark belive me it WAS STRONG OUCH! But when I hooked everything back up the only time I would get spark at the coil still was when I turned the key on and off. So I am going to put everything back together the way that it was and let the Pros handle it. Thanks for all your help. And if you think of anything let me know it is not going in till Monday. Thanks again guys.

 

[capthook]

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Just wanted to update this theard for people looking for advice or solutions. I found that my distributor wires were grounding out (getting pinched by the condensor cap) and the my magnetic sending unit onthe distributer shatf was broke. The I relized the the whole distributor was running a 180 degrees of. I pulled the whole distributer out and d the re timed everything. Put the key the ignition and VROOM! Thanks for all the help. Boat has been running great!

 

[capthook]

Re: Shake down not good and advice?

Just wanted to update this theard for people looking for advice or solutions. I found that my distributor wires were grounding out (getting pinched by the condensor cap) and the my magnetic sending unit onthe distributer shatf was broke. The I relized the the whole distributor was running a 180 degrees of. I pulled the whole distributer out and d the re timed everything. Put the key the ignition and VROOM! Thanks for all the help. Boat has been running great!

 

[searay3]

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Don't mean to sound arrogant here, but you are having more and more problems piling up. Step back, take a deep breath and tackle the systems one at a time. personally, I always start with the ignition. Can't count how many times chasing fuel problems and the culprit was an ignition component. Even tho it's electronic, it does have parts and they do fail. Is there 12v to the positive side of the coil with the key in the 'on' position. I don't know what ign system you have, but there is also a trigger mechanism/pickup coil in there to control when the signal goes into the module/coil. There are troubleshooting guides to check these components. Clean tight connections are a must. Rule out the ignition. Cap/rotor plug wires etc.
No difference in performance removeing plug wires? Pull the plugs and look at what they tell you. Black and sooty, or new white....black, ign.... clean, water intrusion. If water, compression check. THEN you can start looking at fuel delivery. If your jumping around the different subsystems you'll never get it to run right.....

 

[searay3]

Re: Shake down not good and advice?

Don't mean to sound arrogant here, but you are having more and more problems piling up. Step back, take a deep breath and tackle the systems one at a time. personally, I always start with the ignition. Can't count how many times chasing fuel problems and the culprit was an ignition component. Even tho it's electronic, it does have parts and they do fail. Is there 12v to the positive side of the coil with the key in the 'on' position. I don't know what ign system you have, but there is also a trigger mechanism/pickup coil in there to control when the signal goes into the module/coil. There are troubleshooting guides to check these components. Clean tight connections are a must. Rule out the ignition. Cap/rotor plug wires etc.
No difference in performance removeing plug wires? Pull the plugs and look at what they tell you. Black and sooty, or new white....black, ign.... clean, water intrusion. If water, compression check. THEN you can start looking at fuel delivery. If your jumping around the different subsystems you'll never get it to run right.....

 

[searay3]

Re: Shake down not good and advice?

Don't mean to sound arrogant here, but you are having more and more problems piling up. Step back, take a deep breath and tackle the systems one at a time. personally, I always start with the ignition. Can't count how many times chasing fuel problems and the culprit was an ignition component. Even tho it's electronic, it does have parts and they do fail. Is there 12v to the positive side of the coil with the key in the 'on' position. I don't know what ign system you have, but there is also a trigger mechanism/pickup coil in there to control when the signal goes into the module/coil. There are troubleshooting guides to check these components. Clean tight connections are a must. Rule out the ignition. Cap/rotor plug wires etc.
No difference in performance removeing plug wires? Pull the plugs and look at what they tell you. Black and sooty, or new white....black, ign.... clean, water intrusion. If water, compression check. THEN you can start looking at fuel delivery. If your jumping around the different subsystems you'll never get it to run right.....

 

[searay3]

Re: Shake down not good and advice?

Don't mean to sound arrogant here, but you are having more and more problems piling up. Step back, take a deep breath and tackle the systems one at a time. personally, I always start with the ignition. Can't count how many times chasing fuel problems and the culprit was an ignition component. Even tho it's electronic, it does have parts and they do fail. Is there 12v to the positive side of the coil with the key in the 'on' position. I don't know what ign system you have, but there is also a trigger mechanism/pickup coil in there to control when the signal goes into the module/coil. There are troubleshooting guides to check these components. Clean tight connections are a must. Rule out the ignition. Cap/rotor plug wires etc.
No difference in performance removeing plug wires? Pull the plugs and look at what they tell you. Black and sooty, or new white....black, ign.... clean, water intrusion. If water, compression check. THEN you can start looking at fuel delivery. If your jumping around the different subsystems you'll never get it to run right.....

 

[searay3]

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Sorry for the multi post, didn't realize went to a second page....:%