shift/throttle cable ID

[MASTER Brian]

I am trying to replace the shift & throttle cables on my 86 Ranger 373V with an E150XP. I'd like to get the cable(s) ordered prior to pulling things apart, so that I have less down time. Does anyone know what length I need?

The local dealer told me there were some numbers on cables near the motor, this is what I found....
[colour=red]Morse D302029-000-0120.13583 singapore[/colour]

Does that mean anything to anyone? The dealer said that didn't mean anything to them. If not, I guess I'll just have to pull the cables and measure/take them in and just deal with being down a few days.

Thanks

 

[MASTER Brian]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

BTW...I have the part list from BRP's website, but I also don't see any correlation.

 

[jtexas]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Singapore is an island city-state in Southeast Asia.

Morse refers to TeleflexMorse, a division of Teleflex.

See http://www.teleflexmorse.com/CableControls.html

 

[ezeke]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Morse belongs to Teleflex. Teleflex cables are sold by Iboats. Go to the Marine Store at the top of this page. You could email that cable number to them or call it in.

 

[MASTER Brian]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Singapore is an island city-state in Southeast Asia.

Gee, thanks!!
:|
....now why is it on my cable?? Maybe it's where it was made!

I've looked at both places and haven't yet found a match. I do have an email out to teleflex marine, see if they can tell me.

I am wondering if a universal cable would be better at solving my woes...

 

[F_R]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

302029 is Morse Type OS, which is a plain ol' replacement for Johnson/Evinrude after 1979. .0120 means 120 inches (10ft.) Should be available all over the world. But you'll probably have to cross it to the Teleflex or BRP number because Teleflex bought Morse to get their competion off the market. I'm a Morse retiree, just in time.

 

[F_R]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Why do those Emoticons show up where you don't ask for them?

 

[MASTER Brian]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

So this should be a 10' cable. Thanks!

 

[jtexas]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

302029 is Morse Type OS, which is a plain ol' replacement for Johnson/Evinrude after 1979. .0120 means 120 inches (10ft.) Should be available all over the world. But you'll probably have to cross it to the Teleflex or BRP number because Teleflex bought Morse to get their competion off the market. I'm a Morse retiree, just in time.

Why do those Emoticons show up where you don't ask for them?

character combinations in your case "." followed by ")" gives ya .)

 

[ezeke]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Do you really think that OMC manufactured cables?

Most of the boat manufacturers set up the controls, motors and cables, just as they do now.

If you are lucky enough to have a boat built by a company that is still in business, contact them.

 

[MASTER Brian]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Do you really think that OMC manufactured cables?

Most of the boat manufacturers set up the controls, motors and cables, just as they do now.

If you are lucky enough to have a boat built by a company that is still in business, contact them.

I realize the boat manufacturer or the dealer sets up the controls, etc... I'm fairly certain Ranger is still in business, unless something changed today! ....and no, I don't think OMC manufactured cables, nor any of (or almost any of) the other parts on their OMC motors/controls. I would think they would have a part number for the cables though. Actually, I know they do, because it is listed on their website, but they don't cross with what I have.

In any sense, the Morse told me, that was most likely the manufacturer. I was just hopeful someone could tell me what length of cable it was from the numbers on the cable. Sounds like I may have gotten that...

But it may just be easier to go ahead, yank the cables and take them in to be matched up. I just didn't want a week or so of down time at the near end of the season. I've already been down long enough.

 

[ezeke]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Did not mean to be offensive. Chances are very good that Morse manufactured the cables for OMC, that's all.

 

[DHPMARINE]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Can you post a picture of the cables where they attach at the motor? I can't convert the Morse # to BPR,but if the ends of your cable do NOT unscrew,chances are you need BPR # 173110.

DHP

 

[F_R]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

The other BRP cable, the one that the control end comes off, is 377370 for a 10 ft. The BRP website shows both in the 1986 parts book.

I think Teleflex made OMC cables, but to OMC specs. OMC cables had anealed wire ends, Teleflex does not. And the ends fall off the non-anealed ends sometimes. Teleflex pretty much had it sewed up with OMC, made all their instruments. Morse did make the steering cable for some OMC Stern Drives back in the old days. Morse also made a binnacle mount control for OMC. Dog eat dog. Morse and Teleflex were arch rivals, that's why Teleflex bought Morse and closed it down.

 

[ezeke]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Well...Hmmm...I think it is pretty certain that this cable was a Morse cable.

http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=86771F#desc

 

[DHPMARINE]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Morse probably did make them,and I guess now there are several others making them.I've used Uniflex as well.

But whoever made them,the OMC/BPR ones had OMC/BPR part numbers,

Thus the number conversion problem/non problem.

DHP

 

[MASTER Brian]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

I can get a picture, but it may be a day or two and I'm not sure it would do much good. They look just like the cable on the BRP site and the other site that was posted by ezeke.

The ends don't unscrew, they are a one piece design. At least that's the case on the engine side.

Also, FR, seems pretty certain that it's a 10' cable, so I'll go with that.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

The emotions show up when one accidently types in brackets followed by a period such as two of these ( ) followed by a period which ends up as ( ).

Now, when a control set up has a regular control assemby fastened to the inside of the boat (to the gunnel) so that you can control it with your right hand when seated to the right (starboard) of the craft, the usual manner to figure the length of the cable(s) is to measure from the center of the control box to the rear of the boat on the same side, then to the center of the engine, then simply add one foot to whatever measurment you obtain.

 

[MASTER Brian]

Re: shift/throttle cable ID

Thanks Joe, I tried that and got close to 10', maybe 11'.

Also, I got a response back from Teleflex and here is what they said....

[colour=red]"This cable is 120 inches or 10 ft long
Thank you
TFX Tech Support"[/colour]

So, I guess I'll be getting a 10' cable per them and FR.

Just for fun, what would happen if I got say an 11' or 12' cable? Would I just have more cable to figure out how to hide??