Should our pets recieve the same rights as us? (c&p)

tommays

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Re: Should our pets recieve the same rights as us? (c&p)

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<br /><br /> http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/mayes052306.html <br />
On Nov. 21, 2004, Grizz was sleeping, as he often did, on a private drive that serves the Greenups and a few neighbors, when Weaver came by to check on his Christmas tree farm.<br /><br />Weaver said he was driving about 5 mph when Grizz woke up, ran straight at his 2004 Toyota pickup and let out a squeal. "I absolutely did not intentionally run over the dog," Weaver told The Oregonian newspaper of Portland shortly after the incident.<br /><br />He described Grizz as "an old, senile dog" and added, "If you can't keep them on the leash and protect them, you're inviting them to get run over."<br /><br />When the case came to court, prosecutor Rusty Amos told a very different story, based on the accounts of Mark Greenup's partner, Therese Smetana, and the couple's two teenage daughters. Amos contended in court that Weaver ran over Grizz four times, breaking bones and inflicting other injuries so severe that the dog was euthanized.<br /><br />Family members came running when they heard the commotion involving Weaver and Grizz. The two teenagers tried to rescue Grizz from under the truck and were almost injured because Weaver wouldn't stop moving, Greenup said.<br /><br />"The girls were screaming, Daddy, Daddy, please, please, help' ... while they were trying to pull him out from under there," Greenup said. "I'm affected for the rest of my life," said the 52-year-old logger.<br /><br />Last spring, Clackamas County Circuit Judge Douglas Van Dyk convicted Weaver of first-degree animal abuse -- the intentional or reckless injury of an animal -- and of recklessly endangering another person, and sentenced him to 90 days in jail.<br /><br /><br />
It doesent look to good for the driver :( <br /><br /><br />tommays
 

POINTER94

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I agree, that it shouldn't be running in the street. But there have been several posts here pointing to others poisoning the family pet or shooting it. This is sick. It is a weak person who kills a dumb animal to strike a blow at the owner.<br /><br />I have heard of visitation rights in divorce hearings. I think it is more of a per case basis and the specifics would bear out the intentions of the offender. I don't think that any pet is worth 1.6 million. But a cap on such cases will discourage greedy lawyers from tying to make a buck off of others misery. Say 15K???<br /><br />I would have given the life of any of my dogs if that would have led to a cure for cancer. If some jerk killed one for kicks I am not sure I could be responsible for my actions.<br /><br />As for pets having rights? Nope, with rights comes responsibilities and pets can't meet that threshold.
 

eeboater

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Just spent $422 on my dog... I calculated I probably spend ~2000 a year on my dog after Doggy Daycare and the dog food (Better stuff than just plain purina)<br /><br />Worth every cent.
 

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Originally posted by BoatBuoy:<br />
Originally posted by gspig:<br /> When animals can ingauge in self-directed persuits to earn income to pay taxes and take care of themselves, they can have full rights.
Well, that eliminates children.
ROFLOL <br />Was just thinking the same thing.. sick minds think alike :D <br />Pointer<br />Great reply. <br />You pretty much summed up my feelings on the topic also.
 

bootle

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"As for pets having rights? Nope, with rights comes responsibilities and pets can't meet that threshold."<br /><br />Pointer, would you not also agree that there exist perhaps countless of humans who do not as well meet the same threshold?<br />Yet those rights bestowed upon them you deny to your ever most faithful household member, your dog. <br />Do they not have a heart? Do they not bleed the same as you do? And are they not sentient beings?.
 

WillyBWright

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I'm curious about the running over 4 times thing. Apparently that's what's at the center of this and what got him for abuse. I recall my brother running over a rabbit some years back. It's backside was crushed. The animal wasn't going to survive and was in agony. My brother ran it over again a few times to put it out of it's misery. I can see where an onlooker would observe this and think my brother a most cruel person. In reality, he's a vegetarian, ordained minister, and the incident really bummed him out. I wonder if there may be similar circumstances we are unaware of, not having seen it ourselves. Right now I'm just glad some little kid didn't witness the bunny massacre and the parents sue my brother for 1.6mil for psychological distress. :rolleyes:
 

gspig

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Originally posted by BoatBuoy:<br />
Originally posted by gspig:<br /> When animals can ingauge in self-directed persuits to earn income to pay taxes and take care of themselves, they can have full rights.
Well, that eliminates children.
Children shouldn't have the same full rights as an adult. That is what is wrong with this generation of kids. If children have full rights then a 6 year old should be able to marry or enter a legal contract.
 

bootle

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It used to be a severely injured horse was shot to end its pain and suffering, at the same time a man would get his neck stretched at the end of a rope if it was discovered that the horse was stolen.
 

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Originally posted by Darth D Invader:<br /> It used to be a severely injured horse was shot to end its pain and suffering
Sort of witnessed that at a race course (behind a flimsy screen thing) in Jolly old England just last year . . . It was pretty graphic. Right in front of the grandstands, BANG and then there was a tail sticking out of the bottom of the screen thing . . . :eek:
 
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