Sking more dangerous then boating ?

chiefalen

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Jeez whats her last name Natasha dies hitting a tree on the bunny slope ?
Famous actress, just going down the baby slope and a tree is there wtf.

Man when it's your time to go, it's your time to go.
 

bowman316

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

It was a bunny slope in canada thou. More like a hard slope in the east US. I wonder it it was in the canadian rockies or the east coast?

It says she fell during a ski lesson, and got right back up, but said she felt weird. And an hour or so later went to the hospital. It was no like a big fall or anything.

Maybe a minor concussion that got worse over the day.

At first it sounded like she hit a tree, and had to be carted off on a stretcher.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

Of the thousands of soundbites and news stories, never once did I hear, or read that she hit a tree. It never once even "sounded" like she hit a tree! Please post a link where I can read the same story you read/heard. Mont Tremblanc (sp) is a world class ski resort, that I'm sure doesn't put trees in the middle of a Bunny-hill. But I don't know, I've never ski'd there.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

yea, it think she just hit snow pack, which can be rock hard.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

She was at a Mt Tremblanc ,Quebec ski resort taking lessons on a "bunny slope". She was not wearing a helmet, fell hit her head. Got up thought she was fine and went back to her room. She wasn't fine. She is not the first to die this year sking without a helmet. Won't save everone, but if my kid was learing to ski, ice skate, ride a bicycle, dirt bike, atv, etc... etc, a helmet would be on their head. I won't ride anykind of a bike without one.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

Lady down the street was roller blading with her daughters. She took a small fall bumped head, died 2 days later.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

I would think that skiing is more dangerous than boating, I have never been injured on my boat or water skiing, but I can rack up a separated shoulder, broken leg, and a twisted knee due to snow skiing. (all in separate incidents)
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

Two bad knees from skiing and I have tried to kill myself a couple of times skiing out of bounds. I was also a Ski Patroller for a while and I really feel sorry for the Patrollers that talked to her, I am betting they did nothing wrong. I am sure her vitals were good etc. I heard something about her asking to be released, they may have even tried to backboard her as is protocol with any head injury. Just one of those things. I also have not heard nothing about a tree . . .
 

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No tree, she refused an abulance ride to the hosptal, insisting she was fine. Ski patrol took her down the hill on a board and they and the paramedics recommended a trip to the hospital, she insisted she was fine. They had them on the news and they feel bad, but they cannot force someone to go for treatment. I had an uncle die in a similiar manner, fell on a walk and bumped his head, said he was fine. Woke up the next day.....he was not....same stuff as her and he died the same way. Hit your head? hey get checked out ok
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

Most, if not all the details of Ms. Richardsons' accident were known, almost immediately afterwards. At least it was here. Its the mis-information people procreate, that is disturbing... Especially to the family. "Whats-her-name Natasha" died un-necessarily, that is for sure. People will learn from this, we all hope.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

I ski instruct full time in the winter (hey... all the boats are put away)
I get about 100 days on the snow at 8 hours a day. I've seen it all. I've seen kids fall 20 feet and land on hard pack... and be fine except for a few bruises. And i've seen 1 kid push over another in the lift line, and the kid who fell broke his leg.
Like any other sport, there is a chance of bodily harm, and it's expected that you know that if you participate in that sport.
Its unfortunate what happened to that lady. But I hope all the weenies out there don't pass some stupid helmet law.
I wouldn't be surprised if this lady had some pre-existing condition. A simple knock to the head shouldn't kill you.
 

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Awhile back I watched a special about surfers that would fall and bash their head against the sand bottom. Many of them would shrug it off only to die later as Natasha did. Couldn't this be a very similar thing that the Shaken Baby syndrome is? It doesn't take very much to joggle the ole brain in a bad way.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

Heck yeah it's more dangerous. Didn't tore a ligament in my left knee being on a boat.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

Sonny Bono did the tree thing skiing in 1988. This poor lady just hit the snow. :( Feel bad for the family and husband.
 

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IMHO, a pure case of 'when your number is up'. It is both sad and a shame that this happened but I sincerely hope that this incident does not get all the bleeding hearts calling for ski helmet laws.

If you are an aggressive skier, I have no doubt that helmets are a good idea, but how about for once we let that decision reside with the skier. After all we cannot stop talking about 'choice' in other areas, can we?
 

chiefalen

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

This forum is the funniest place, ask a question and get all kinds of reply's.

Channel 5 news said it was a tree, now it appears it wasn't.

Maybe something good will come out of all this, people will start wearing helmets on the slope.

I don't ski, did once before my war wound i wouldn't dare to now.

So if i get it correct, skiing is more dangerous then boating ?

Should the resort have required helmets for the clients that are taking a class?

Yea i posted " whats her last name Natasha dies " not " Natasha whats her name " .

Gonna quote me? Please quote me correctly please.

Tell you people what, i didn't even know who she was, don't follow what movie stars do, when they do it, and who they do it with.

And frankly i don't care.

What caught my attention really was, what the waste of a young woman, in her prime.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

IMHO, a pure case of 'when your number is up'. It is both sad and a shame that this happened but I sincerely hope that this incident does not get all the bleeding hearts calling for ski helmet laws.

If you are an aggressive skier, I have no doubt that helmets are a good idea, but how about for once we let that decision reside with the skier. After all we cannot stop talking about 'choice' in other areas, can we?

Yeah, gotta watch out for those bleeding harts.
 

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

I wouldn't be surprised if this lady had some pre-existing condition. A simple knock to the head shouldn't kill you.

You could not be more incorrect. People die from a "simple knock of the head" frequently.

I was in a bad car accident 20 years ago. I was in a seat belt, but didn't hit a thing in the car. I still ended up with brain injury in both the front and back of my head. This happened merely because the impact of the crash was so hard, and my head was whipped so violently forward and backward, that I had minor bleeds in both places.

I was taken to a hospital immediately after being extracated from my vehicle, and was not released for a week. For the first five days, I was fed intraveneously, because the docs didn't want any food in my stomach, just in case surgery was needed.

These injuries are extrememly dangerous and very often don't appear to be serious at first. People have a tendency to minimize the seriousness of them and deaths such as that of Natasha Ricardson, are often the result.

This is truly a shame because it didn't have to happen.
 

JustJason

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Re: Sking more dangerous then boating ?

You could not be more incorrect


This happened merely because the impact of the crash was so hard, and my head was whipped so violently forward and backward, that I had minor bleeds in both places.

I was taken to a hospital immediately after being extracated from my vehicle, and was not released for a week. For the first five days, I was fed intraveneously, because the docs didn't want any food in my stomach, just in case surgery was needed.

Stop being a weenie. Name to me the people that have died because Mike Tyson, Evander Holeyfield, George Foreman, Mohammed ali... etc... punched them in the face.
I consider myself and expert/pro skiier. I am PSIA level 2. I used to race and My forte is going fast. Most recreational skiiers ski at 10 to 15 MPH.... tops.
I cruise between 35 and 45mph. What I do is this. I have a garmin portable gps. It has a spedometer function that records top speed and gives average speed as well. I haven't raced in a while but I did a race clinic at Ragged mountain in Nh in Feb. They had station attendents along the way that would clock you with radar. I got clocked at 81mph during a long stretch on the course. When I got to the Bottom I pulled my GPS and it said 86mph was my top. I ski both the 09 model Elan Magfire 82TXI and 06 ELAN Ripstix. I ski on custom Dalbello Krypton boots. I can say without a doubt that both ski and boot perform flawlessly at high speed.
I've taken my tumbles. I've fallen at 60+ MPH. Luckily i haven't broken a bone yet. But I've hurt myself pretty good. But that is part of the deal. The way I look at it is this.... If i'm not willing to crash at 80... I shouldn't be skiing that fast.
 
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