Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

jmusky49

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Wondering what might be happening, when I slowly accelerate my engine chokes/stalls, but this does not happen when I "hammer" the throttle forward. Also, when I slow down from cruise, it does the same thing. Not exactly sure, but I think RPM range is between just above idle to about 1800 RPM. It only happens when engine is in gear. When in neutral, engine accelerates and decelerates normally. Thanks in advance for assistance.
 

boater4life

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Have you checked for water in the fuel?
 

jmusky49

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

I have and have found none. I added a can of Seafoam to the last tank and was out for a couple of hours, it seemed to help, but only a little and sounds more like a bandaid, rather than a fix. I forgot to mention that when I shut off the motor, it "rolls on, or disels" and doesn't want to shut off.
 

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Sounds like it's Time for a Carb Rebuild........<br /><br />Might be some "Stuff" in the Low Speed Circuit.......
 

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Since it's a only a 2003, check for a host of simple things first. Could be just a clogged gas filter that's on the carb ...or the timing maybe off ...or the auto choke plate may need to be adjusted ...or the air filter may need cleaning.<br /><br />If you haven't done it already, give it a minor tune up. Spark plugs, gas filter and water separator, carb cleaning with a carb cleaner spray spraying into a running carb and use the spray as well to clean the air filter.<br /><br />If all that doesn't work, then I'd tear down the carb looking for varnish/dirt.
 

I/O WALDO

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Shift cable/interrupter?
 

Don S

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

I posted a fairy tale about a year ago you may like to read.<br /><br />
Let me tell you a fairy tale of a 2004, 3.0L Mercruiser engine that destroyed itself.<br />Once upon a time there was this Marine Mechanic, that shall remain nameless, that had to replace a 3.0L Mercruiser engine under warranty due to a broken valve that destroyed a cylinder wall and piston. After replacing the long block with a brand new one, the engine was very hard to start, hard to keep running till it warmed up and dieseled severely when shut off, even after idling for several minutes and not over 140° temperature, and there was absolutly no carbon buildup since it was a brand new engine.<br />The timing was spot on, and since this engine had the EST distributor was set at the proper timing per the manual and done while in the base timing mode. Still the same problems. It was obvious the engine was running too lean but with the anti tamper devise on the carb mixture screw, it was impossible to adjust it richer.<br />Knowing the lean mixture was probably the cause of the engine failure, the MM (Marine Mechanic) decided, against his better judgment, that the problem with the engine would occur again in a very short time if not prevented somehow.<br />Knowing full well that the California EPA may rain fire and damnation on him for the rest of natural born life and on into the unknown after death, the MM decided to take the matters into his own hands and remove the tamper proof cover over the idle mixture screw. He soon found this to be a very difficult task, but somehow managed to remove it without destroying the carb or the screw. (He later found it would have been much easier to order a new mixture screw and just replace it and go ahead and break the old one off.) <br />Finally after the success of removing the dreaded seal, he backed the mixture screw out approximately a quarter to a half turn. the engine then smoothed out and ran great, idled smooth and slower without dieing and was even easy to start for the first time in it's life, even cold, and never dieseled again when shut off. <br />While the MM is worried about the hereafter and the consequences of his irresponsible act against the California EPA and all the other mini EPA's of the world, along with the consequences of his complete disregard for the Mercruiser procedures outlined in his service manual, the dastardly dead was done...............<br />The customer, however, wondered why his boat now worked perfectly but the poor ole MM was unable to tell him the truth and worries to this day he will be found out and that upon passing he will be sent to the worst part of purgatory for his serious misdoings, but I will......uh, sorry about that, he will be happy in knowing that the boats engine will now live and last for many trips to the great fishing grounds of the owner.<br /><br />Please understand that this is only a fairy tale and should only be told in the proper company, and hopefully someone will not irresponsibly put this in a vault or something silly like that as it should NEVER be mentioned again as someone else may try it and also be condemned to eternal damnation of the EPA gods.<br />
 

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Don S,<br /><br />Since I wouldn't want you getting yourself in a bind since you work on this stuff professionally, is there any resourse on the web or possibly anyone on this site who has some advise on how to take that "tamper-proof" device off without tearing up the carb or anything else? I have an 04' 3.0 and I don't want it running lean for a second longer than what it has to. Is that tamper proof cap made out of some type of plastic? Can the top be burned or seared off some how to get to the head of the adjusting screw. Any help, as always, is greatly appreciated.
 

jmusky49

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Don S, and others, thanks for the ideas, I will try them out soon. As far as the tamper proof device, I have heard another fairy tale, if the tamper proof device is the same.<br /><br />It is said that if it is a cap device, some skilled individuals can take a #30 or #40 drill bit and drill a small hole in the center of the cap. They should be careful not to drill to far in and damage the screw behind the cap. Once the hole is made, take a small self tapping sheet metal screw slightly larger than the hole and thread it in the hole. Once threaded, attach pulling device i.e. pliars, and remove cap. There you have effortless magic that only fairy tales of this nature can provide.<br /><br />Now remember, this is only a fairy tale.
 

Don S

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

Not exactly sure a carb is something I would want to go after with a torch. :eek: <br />Might try a Dreamal tool with a cutting disc. They are metal covers.
 

ron7000

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Re: Slow acceleration stall, 2003 Merc 3.0 135hp

I have a 2002 3L in a bayliner. Had the same problem with the bogging/stalling on slow acceleration, and not always when I'd hammer the throttle. This was on a brand new engine basically.<br />What's happening in your case when you can hammer the throttle and the engine accelerates great throughout the 1000-3000 rpm range is the accelerator pump is supplying all the needed extra fuel until the main jets and power valve in the carb come online and supply the fuel.<br />When you accelerate slower, the transition circuit in the carb ( a bunch of little passageways ) is what supplies fuel. What's happening is they are clogged, it only takes the littlest bit of dirt or scale to screw it up, and your not getting enough fuel. The other cause is the float is not set high enough. If your engine has always done this from day 1 brand new then it's most likely the float level needs to be raised. But can also be a combination of the transition circuit being clogged.<br /><br />It would stand to reason merc would lean it out as much as possible to meet epa restrictions. Here's a description of how to correct the lean out condition:<br /><br />3L mercarb float adjustment <br /><br />On mine, I've raised the float and also gone up from 1.55mm main jets to 1.65 mm. Runs great, lot's of power when getting me up on 1 ski.<br />Also, just raising the float may fix your problem because doing that inherently richens the mixture, so you may not need to adjust the idle mixture screw. Worst part is you'll need a new bowl cover gasket which only comes in a gasket kit for $26 either mercurypartsexpress.com or dealer. And cleaning the old gasket off sucks, apply white lithium grease or never sieze to new one so it doesn't stick.<br /><br />Rumor had it only Kalifornia had the dohickee restriction on the idle mixture screw. Since your in Florida and there you can shoot people if they step in your house or if they look at you when you're in your car you'd at least be able to spew a few more HC's :D <br /><br />more info<br /> http://forums.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=013755#000001 <br /> http://forums.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=008568#000003
 
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