Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

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Old Screwball

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Re: Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

Something to think about...

Speed is a function of RPM, not horse power. More horse power will increase accelleration, not speed. Too much hp will cause more slippage, thus lower speed. The trick is to maximize rpm and reduce slippage. I have an 18' party barge with a 75hp 4 stroke Merc. I'm using a 14" diameter, 12 pitch with cupped blades. This is prop #4. The best I can get is 24.6 mph. My neighbor's 19' with a 90 hp 4 stroke Merc running a 13 pitch prop makes 22 mph.

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Re: Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

I forgot to ask, is this your first pontoon?? Our Tracker Party Barge is our first. It raplaced a 75mph ski boat, which replaced a 65mph 'multi purpose' boat. It took (takes) quite a while to get used to putting around the lake rather than flying. Granted, I can seat 9 and still have room to dance on the Party Barge. I have a slide and diving board for the Grand Kids, I just can't get anywhere very fast. That must be the trade off.
 

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Re: Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

Something to think about...

Speed is a function of RPM, not horse power. More horse power will increase accelleration, not speed. Too much hp will cause more slippage, thus lower speed. The trick is to maximize rpm and reduce slippage. I have an 18' party barge with a 75hp 4 stroke Merc. I'm using a 14" diameter, 12 pitch with cupped blades. This is prop #4. The best I can get is 24.6 mph. My neighbor's 19' with a 90 hp 4 stroke Merc running a 13 pitch prop makes 22 mph.

Good Luck!

OS, yes my first pontoon, although my friend has a 21' pb with a 90hp and his numbers are about the same as mine, a bit better because his is a signature and a lot lighter than my overstuffed regency 22 pb with 26" toons. Between the extra weight and the extra drag from the toons, I go a bit slower. He also uses a 14x15p. Mine is rated for 14 people and I cannot remb the weight allowed. Thus the extra weight. I came from a 17' runabout maxing at 37mph, so this is quite a transition for me. We bought a joint at lake ozark in mo, and there are some *'n big a** boats on there and they don't care if they run you over. After the 3rd time I got air, I said no more and went looking for a pontoon and caught this one from a guy who had to sell it to save his home and homestead. I paid 1/3 of what he paid for it new, 3 years used, and it was well below kelly blue book. Had I bought new I would have prob bought a simpler model. The larger toons and boat allows me to manage the 4' wakes that attack the boat from the idiots in their cabin cruisers and off shore racing boats. Ignorance does not stop at the end of the highway.

I would be happy w 24mph and hope that the prop change will make a diff. I need a backup prop anyway, so it will be a good place to start. The jack plate is just too much $$$ right now for my retired income plus the cables will prob need to be replaced because they are just perfect now with no room from stretching. Its really not so much the speed, as much as the gas use, we were over $5 a gallon this year and that's too much for this 67 year old.

I do believe the acplate is too low in the water at 10.5" and one of the contributors above said I had 38% slippage, which I hope can be mitigated by the prop or the jack plate, but that will have to wait for now. I can afford a prop, but the jp would be $800 or so with a longer set of cables, so it will be plan B at this point. I have never used ethanol gas in this motor and the only non-ethanol gas on land is premium, thus more than regular land but a lot cheaper than lake non ethanol gas, but ugh, the 5 gallon gas cans and hoses and such, what a pain. Thanks for your info and suggs. I have never had a cheap hobby in my life, so these issues are no surprise to me. Such is the life of a captain. ed.

ps: yes, my hole shot is twice as fast as the 50hp, you are correct about the acceleration increase
 
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Re: Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

If you go ahead and raise the motor and don't want to buy new steering cables, perhaps moving the existing cables up onto the deck instead of underneath would be a possible solution....?? They would most likely reach.
 

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Re: Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

It appears your motor is way too low. The cavitation plate should be level with the bottom of the motor pod. You need to get that right before trying to find right prop. I would estimate your speed should be 22-26 mph, when set up right.
 

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Re: Slow pontoon boat 50hp merc, installed a 90hp merc, no change in gps speed

I have had pontoons for years, now I am in a 17 foot runabout type boat. Anyway, I left one of the pontoon boats in the water for about two months. It was a triple toon with a 150 Johnson on it. Prior to leaving it in the water, it would run 41, 42 mph. After the two months and the algae growth, dropped to 36 mph. There were other variables, temperature, humidity, air density but....I pulled it out of the water and spent hours cleaning the toons, back in the water, ran about the same top speed as it used to run. I was shocked at the difference. Also, the last triple I had had a 115 Yamaha four stroke, would run 31 to 32 mph. This particular boat did not have the aluminum sheeting underneath the deck, the cross member's were exposed to the water. I added the sheeting underneath and went from the bow to about 12 feet back. Two things happened. The water noise was greatly reduced and I picked up 2 or 3 miles per hour. I think both of these things were mentioned in an earlier text. Clean toons and underneath sheeting make a big difference. Rick
 
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