So Much For Good Bearings...

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When i got my jon boat it came with a 1984 cox tilt trailer. Well i guess when the guy your buying the boat from tells you that the wheel bearings are good, he is just trying to make the sale. When i took off the dust cap water poured out... what a suprise. The bearings were damn near dry. Does anyone know where i can find axel seals and i guess the inner/outer races and the bearings are prob shot and all pitted up. I am taking them to work to re-pack whats left of these bad boys. Just woundering if anyone knows where to get these parts at. Thanks.


Oh and its about 15ft 9in with a single axel 4 lug pattern.. not sure what i need to look up parts...
 

Silvertip

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

Remove the bearings and check them for numbers. Trailer bearings are very generic and you either have a 1 inch spindle, or you have a 1-1/16 inner and outer bearing or your have a 1-1/16 outer and 1-3/8 inner. I'm guessing, but I would expect you will find the bearings are both 1-1/16 and you can find them at any marine dealer, auto parts store (NAPA, Auto Zone, etc), any store that sells boating accessories (Cabelas, Bass Pro and right here on iBoats). If you have a farm store in your area they even have them in the automotive department.
 

mthieme

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

Marine supply stores, trailer supply shops, Tractor Supply, Northern Tool, Cabelas, JC Whitney, and of course iBoats. Maybe auto parts stores if they can look them up...most can't.
 

Wotknot

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

Look for a company called Motion Industries. They're experts in bearings, races, etc.
 

hank55

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

I have had good results at NAPA, they can cross reference a lot of products
 

180shabah

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

Even walmart sells bearing sets for trailers.
 

Mark42

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

I took the bearing numbers to NAPA and they had shrink-wrapped bearing kit the next day.
 

reelfishin

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

Even Walmart here sells trailer bearings, both loose and in kit form in the marine section. They're Chinese bearings but so are most others from Sea Sense and other marine retaillers. NAPA can get both and you can most likely get US made bearings from any local industrial bearing supply, just take them the old bearings and seal to match up.
 

Shizzy

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

I never trust the guy Im buying from. when I bought my boat the guy kept going on and on about the trailer having bearing buddies and how I would never need to touch them. I got the boat home, pulled the bearing buddies and found milkshake where there should be grease.
 

reelfishin

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I never trust the guy Im buying from. when I bought my boat the guy kept going on and on about the trailer having bearing buddies and how I would never need to touch them. I got the boat home, pulled the bearing buddies and found milkshake where there should be grease.

I got a buddy like that, but he goes one step further, he's only got one bearing buddy, he switches it onto the wheel he intends to grease, pumps it full till grease runs down the back of the wheel, then swaps the dust cap back on. He's never actually serviced the bearings and he don't re grease again till he hears noise. The worst part is that he's towing a 6500 lb boat. He also brags about how his trailer has brakes and mine don't. He's got surge brakes which have been missing the fill cap for at least three years. The brake reservoir is full of rusty water. Those brakes haven't worked in ages yet he refuses to hear other wise. I don't ride in his boat or truck, nor will I follow him down the road.
Somehow he's never had a major failure. He ran around for the longest time with three different size tires, one was a 14" which had all of it's lugs rusted on, and two were 13" but two different sized car tires and one 12" wheel from a bass boat since that was his spare and the other 14" finally blew out last year. That rim is held on with nuts and bolts since all of the lugs snapped off when he changed it.
I've even tried to help straighten it out some but he won't touch it, what's not broke, don't need fixing in his eyes. His feeling is that they put 4 wheels on that trailer in case one breaks or goes flat, you still have 3 others to get home on. The one 14" rim and tire are so rusty that we are taking bets as to when it will fly off or collapse. He's already had to put a tube in it since the rim won't hold air. He fought the tire on and off on the trailer with a huge c clamp and some wood as a bead breaker. If I had to go though that much work to save a rusty wheel, I'd have just as well tossed it and replaced the whole thing. He's got another wheel to use, he just doesn't feel that this one is fully 'used up enough' yet. If you ask him about taking care of his truck and trailer, he'll tell you that he does all his own maintenance and that he's just re-greased the bearings. If something breaks, and falls off, he will no doubt find a used part to put back on, regardless of whether or not it matches or fits properly, but if you ask him, that parts is 'NEW'. The only thing new about it is that its new to that wreck of a trailer. In most cases, it hasn't been 'New' in at least a decade. Duct tape is also a favorite repair on both the boat and his truck.
 

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

I got a buddy like that, but he goes one step further, he's only got one bearing buddy, he switches it onto the wheel he intends to grease, pumps it full till grease runs down the back of the wheel, then swaps the dust cap back on. He's never actually serviced the bearings and he don't re grease again till he hears noise. The worst part is that he's towing a 6500 lb boat. He also brags about how his trailer has brakes and mine don't. He's got surge brakes which have been missing the fill cap for at least three years. The brake reservoir is full of rusty water. Those brakes haven't worked in ages yet he refuses to hear other wise. I don't ride in his boat or truck, nor will I follow him down the road.
Somehow he's never had a major failure. He ran around for the longest time with three different size tires, one was a 14" which had all of it's lugs rusted on, and two were 13" but two different sized car tires and one 12" wheel from a bass boat since that was his spare and the other 14" finally blew out last year. That rim is held on with nuts and bolts since all of the lugs snapped off when he changed it.
I've even tried to help straighten it out some but he won't touch it, what's not broke, don't need fixing in his eyes. His feeling is that they put 4 wheels on that trailer in case one breaks or goes flat, you still have 3 others to get home on. The one 14" rim and tire are so rusty that we are taking bets as to when it will fly off or collapse. He's already had to put a tube in it since the rim won't hold air. He fought the tire on and off on the trailer with a huge c clamp and some wood as a bead breaker. If I had to go though that much work to save a rusty wheel, I'd have just as well tossed it and replaced the whole thing. He's got another wheel to use, he just doesn't feel that this one is fully 'used up enough' yet. If you ask him about taking care of his truck and trailer, he'll tell you that he does all his own maintenance and that he's just re-greased the bearings. If something breaks, and falls off, he will no doubt find a used part to put back on, regardless of whether or not it matches or fits properly, but if you ask him, that parts is 'NEW'. The only thing new about it is that its new to that wreck of a trailer. In most cases, it hasn't been 'New' in at least a decade. Duct tape is also a favorite repair on both the boat and his truck.

People like your buddy are an unfortunate fact of life. Hope I never travel the same road as him.
 

reelfishin

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

People like your buddy are an unfortunate fact of life. Hope I never travel the same road as him.

The problem is that he's by far not alone. I'd venture to guess that more than half of the boat owners or trailers out there are like that. It seems there's always the two extremes, those who make sure everything is right and safe, and the don't fix what ain't broke crowd. It's the latter than usually never seem to have any problems though. (Or they don't realize that there is a problem when something goes wrong).
 

HappierWet

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

These are the same kind of people that tow with bumper hitches...on sub compacts.....from 1980.....with bald tires:eek::eek::eek:
 

JB25VIP

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Re: So Much For Good Bearings...

I'm the assistant manager of an auto parts store (O'reilly auto parts) and i have personally found NUMEROUS trailer bearings, people bring them in and have no idea what kind of axle or anything, no problem, if the parts man knows what he's doing, he will get the bearing book and a micrometer and take some measurements, the measurments there in the book tell you exactly what bearing you need, we have 99% of trailer bearings and seals in stock that i have ever had to try to find. Moral of the story, if your local auto parts store has anyone in it that halfway knows what there doing and is not scared to pull out a paper catalog and can find something that isn't right there in front of them in the "all knowing computer"(since computers can't look up trailer bearings!) then your in business. In fact the bearings you need are usually sitting on the shelf 10 feet from the parts salesman when he tells you that he doesn't have them/can't get them! (oh yea, and usually the bearings and seals have numbers on them that will cross right over to the bearing number your parts store carries, might need a magnifying glass to see them though!) this of course negates the need for any paper catalog lookup
 
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