so what's so bad about a Bayliner?

[apocripha]

Re: so what's so bad about a Bayliner?

I have a 1978 Bayliner Mutiny with origanol flooring and no sign of water damage at all. It's used almost year around depending on the weather in saltwater.The only thing I have had to replace is the carpeting and seat covering. It all depends on how well you take care of it.

 

[vampirefish]

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Howdy all. Just bought a 95' Capri 2050 Bowrider with an i/o 5.0 Mercruiser. She's in excellent shape and I can't wait to take her out with the family! I plan on taking care of my boat (as the previous owners did) so not anticipating any problems!

 

[Bsturkie]

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Guys, I'm in the middle of a 1986 bayliner Capri 1850 restore.(my first boat and restore) I can tell you, when the stringers were sprayed with the chopper gun, they didn't even encapsulate the stringer. I have holes (well had before the replacement) 1" x 3-4" all over the stringers where all of the water in the world can get to and rot the exposed wood. In automotive terms, this would be like scouring the frame so it can break easier.Why would Bayliner worry about that 5 yrs. down the road when the boat is far out of warranty? My boat is 19 yrs. old. Modern cars don't last that long and they don't contain the number one problematic culprit, wood. So my opinion of Bayliner, could be built better but the price would of course be much higher.

 

[tazameir]

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I shopped for quite a while for an older boat, and ended up getting a bayliner as well. Its a 1985 capri cuddy? I still have no idea what actual model it is but it has an outboard and a cabin. (http://rawfire.torche.com/~taz/images/boat/) I got it because it was cheap. $500. I figure I'll put at least $1000 into it, but thats ok, I wanted something I could work on as well. I'm actually very surprized how well it seemed to hold up over the years. The last owner told me he would leave it in the delta for about 3 months a year during the summer. The boat did not have a bildge in it, and didnt seem to leak too much. The lower unit could use some cleaning, and painting though, as the delta has alot of salt in it (SF bay area). In any case I've been really enjoying fixing it up and look forward to dropping it into some freshwater out here in Nevada pretty soon. Only thing is I'd like to pull a tube or ski'er and have not had luck finding a tower or pylon for it. Ideally I'd like to add a tower, but I do not think it was designed for that type of setup. In any case, I'm really happy with this boat. I did consider a 4-winns, but the price seemed way higher then what I have now.

 

[bruceb58]

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My Bayliner was good for me. It was a 1987 Capri 2150 Cuddy that I sold in 2002. <br /><br />That being said, I would probably never buy another one. My next boat is a Wellcraft which is middle road quality but hands down better than the Bayliner.

 

[Purduebarry]

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Not a darn thing...more of a problem for OMC equipped owners than anything else. If you want the best answer however just ask all those people standing on the bank wishing they were on a boat! I was one of them until I bought my Bayliner and I'm not looking back!

 

[Realgun]

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Nothing a little help with epoxy and new stuff won't cure. <br /><br />I like mine but it does look good! I just need to do a wee bit more however, the main stuff is done and it works.

 

[S.Lee]

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I am glad I checked this page out.
I am currently toying with the idea of buying a new boat. My current boat is a 16' SwiftSure with a 60hp merc on the back (circa 1984). It is our first real decent boat, and we are finding that we are wanting one with a little more horsepower. I started out looking at re-powering, but the cost seems like it made more sense to sell this one and buy another. The new 175 Bayliners retail around here for $17,000cdn. I was worried that I would by buying something that wouldn't last 10-15 years I want it to. I plan on using this thing 6-15 times a year, and I take my boat out every evening. It is stored outside in the summer (tarped of course), and inside all winter. So is Bayliner a decent boat for my application?

 

[whywhyzed]

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I had an 80's Bayliner and it was built EXACTLY like an 80's Doral, or Glastron or Grew or ... etc. etc... value boats are all built cheaply.
I spent $1000 on a high quality custom snap on cockpit cover that covered the windshield, side windows and the bow hatch, and snapped to the sides of the boat and had vents. That is the crucial investment people are so reluctant to make and it costs people their boat so many times.

S.Lee... don't "tarp" a boat...it never works. A Canadian Tire Blue cover is "ok" but a pain to use and support so water doesn't pool on it esp. on a bowrider.
I would say "it's $18500" to myself and get a custom cover made out of Sunbrella or other high quality material.

 

[imported_RJ]

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S.Lee,
I have owned 2 Bayliners & I would buy another without concern. As you have read they are a more "value" based boat. For the money you can't beat them, IMO. I bought a '92 19' open bow Bayliner 3 years ago the previous owners did not take very good care of it, but all the damage was cosmetic, it otherwise worked fine. It was a little beat up & I had some growing pains with it myself being out of boating for 10 years. I sold it after 2 1/2 yrs & it cost me less than $1,000 to own it. I used it on inland lakes (ALOT) & trailered it home & covered it. I have since bought a '98 23.5' Bayliner cruiser the previous owner took very good care of it & it shows. I have been asked several times at the ramp if it was new. It cost about 15 to 20 thousand less than a new Bayliner of the same size & it was about 10 thousand less than the other "better built" used models. I would have had to get a 2-5 year older boat to get the same type/size. It took a while to find a good one that I wanted but it was worth it. I trailer this one home & keep it in a garage. If I don't neglect it, it sould last for a long time. I looked at alot of boats of all kinds & it really makes a difference how well they were taken care of, I saw some real pieces of S***t of every make because of owner neglect. I couldn't afford a well kept Sea Ray or Larson that wasn't to old so I got a well kept Bayliner & couldn't be happier.8)

 

[ralstoner]

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Howdy all. Just bought a 95' Capri 2050 Bowrider with an i/o 5.0 Mercruiser. She's in excellent shape and I can't wait to take her out with the family! I plan on taking care of my boat (as the previous owners did) so not anticipating any problems!

i got a 96 2050 ss w/5.0 and i replaced fuel pump and water fuel separater filter and it still will not hold rpms at 50mph it goggs dwn but starts and revs fine im not sure what else to try

 

[NYBo]

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i got a 96 2050 ss w/5.0 and i replaced fuel pump and water fuel separater filter and it still will not hold rpms at 50mph it goggs dwn but starts and revs fine im not sure what else to try

The first thing to do is create your own thread over in the I/O section!

EDIT: Okay, I see you did that already.:redface:

 

[Stachi]

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I am currently restoring the deck on the boat in my signature....I have removed approx 500 lbs of water logged foam ......this boat was gifted to me after sitting uncovered outdoors since 1997......every place that the foam touched wood was rotted...I wonder how they got away with calling the foam they used as 'flotation' when it absorbs water....

 

[Stachi]

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This vessel was gifted to me... I fell in love with her hull...I blame the Bayliner bad rap on it being an inexpensive entry level boat, owned by inexperienced first time boaters , unaware of the maintenance and storage needs that a boat requires....she still has a beautiful hull....any originally low priced boat will most likely have these problems...some higher priced boats will have the same wear and tear on them...the original owners may have abused them and resold them long before the damage was evident... caveat emptor...look at what you buy...due diligence

 

[wingmastr23]

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I am fairly new to the boat "ownership" game....but I love mine! I could buy any boat (within reason) that I want.....and chose a used Bayliner.

Why?

Like previously stated it depends how it has been maintained. Buying a used Bayliner is a good value....and buying one with all the maitenance records makes it even better.

Other reasons -

I don't have alot of money invested in it - if I want to beach it for the day - I will.

If I want to fish out of it - I will.

If my friends want to borrow it for a vacation - They can....If they scratch it....I am not too worried.

It is all about having fun, and enjoying the water - "Making Memories" as my wife likes to say - 10 years from now, my kids (12/9) will not give a rip what boat they had fun in....but they will remember all the fun they had in the boat!!

 

[Stachi]

Re: so what's so bad about a Bayliner?

i am fairly new to the boat "ownership" game....but i love mine! I could buy any boat (within reason) that i want.....and chose a used bayliner.

Why?

Like previously stated it depends how it has been maintained. Buying a used bayliner is a good value....and buying one with all the maitenance records makes it even better.

Other reasons -

i don't have alot of money invested in it - if i want to beach it for the day - i will.

If i want to fish out of it - i will.

If my friends want to borrow it for a vacation - they can....if they scratch it....i am not too worried.

It is all about having fun, and enjoying the water - "making memories" as my wife likes to say - 10 years from now, my kids (12/9) will not give a rip what boat they had fun in....but they will remember all the fun they had in the boat!!

well said

 

[bruceb58]

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Had a 1987 Bayliner 2150 Capri Cuddy. I enjoyed the boat but since I bought it when it was just a couple years old, there wasn't much to go wrong with it yet. Having said that, i would not buy one of that vintage now. Late 80s to early 90s were bad years for Bayliners. The quality is just not that good and it doen't cost much more to get something a lot better.