Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

CATransplant

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Finally! I unloaded all of my Sears, Eska, and Sea King outboards today in one lot. Good riddance to them all. The Johnson 6hp is running great, which I cannot say was ever the case with the others.

The 1974 9.9 hp Ted Williams/Eska with the balky solid state ignition system would run sometimes and not other times. No parts available, so it has been lying on the garage floor for two years.

The 3 hp Eska which would run like a banshee...when the needle actually seated...and would fill the crankcase with fuel mix when it didn't. New needle. New seat, new float. Same results. You just never new what state it was going to be in until you tried to start it.

The 5 hp Sea King/Clinton, which almost always started. Almost. Except for the time the wind came up on the lake and it refused to start. Today, however, in the barrel, when the guy came to look at the outboards...it started on the first pull and ran perfectly. My good luck. His bad luck, perhaps, somewhere down the road.

All gone. $120 in my pocket, and one running outboard to the new owner. I told him about the impossible to get solid state components, the needle and seat that only worked sometimes, and expressed shock that the Sea King started on the first pull. I told him that was not its normal habit, and showed him how he had to hold his mouth when he started it under normal circumstances.

I did throw in a plastic tank, two Chrysler fittings for the Ted Williams and the Sea King, and the tank was full of 24:1 mix.

He has my sympathies and my best wishes. He also has my 100% guarantee that the outboards would make it out of my sight.

I think I'll go boating tomorrow, just to hear that Johnson 6hp Fisherman run...nicely and quietly and smoothly. :D
 

JB

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

Nothing like a JohnnyRude small twin to humiliate anything else and cause us to be dissatisfied with others.

Waytogo, CAT. :)
 

tmcalavy

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

Good news for you...gotta ask though, did you do the demo and sale at your BIL's house? Hopefully the buyer is a manly man who won't come back complaining if one of the crankies won't start again. When they do, it's best to have them on your BIL's front porch instead of your own. Just kiddin...I would never do that.
 

CATransplant

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

Pretty good idea, but I'm a full discloser when I sell something. Oddly enough, it doesn't seem to hurt the sale.

The real reason I'm posting this is as a caveat to folks who are thinking about buying one of these off-brand outboards. It may seem like it's a way to get a cheap outboard, but it's really not.

By the time you run down the hard-to-find parts and get one thing fixed on a 30+ year old outboard from a company that has long been out of business, some other part fails and you're in the cycle of repairing a lost cause.

Then, even if you do manage to get your outboard running well, you'll have spent what it would cost to have bought a decent johnnyrude in the first place.

Worse, you'll have a noisy, vibrating, balky outboard with no gear shift hanging off the back of your boat, just waiting to break and send you on yet another quest for some obscure part.

Where I am, there's a constant stream of Johnson and Evinrude 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.5, 9.5, and 10 hp outboards on Craig's List. If they're running well, they sell for anything from $150-$400. The off-brands go for about half that price, but once you have to hunt down a part while you're not fishing, they don't seem like such a bargain.

Yes, the Johnnyrudes will need parts too, sometimes, but you can get the parts tomorrow, not after a couple of weeks of trying to find them.

I'm a prime example of someone who tried to "economize" on an outboard. I had about $400 in those three outboards I sold for $120. Had I spent that $400 in the first place, I would have had many more fishing days and lots fewer days when I couldn't fish because the stupid outboard didn't start.

So, if you're reading this thread and thinking about buying a Sears, Montgomery Wards, Eska, Clinton, or some other off-brand, out of business outboard made in the 1960s or 1970s, you can learn from my experience. They're a cosmic waste of time and resources, especially since there are so many nice little Johhnyrudes out there looking for new owners. Get one. Make whatever minor repairs they need, and get on the water.

Rant off.
 

pkrainert

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

I got a 2001 Johnson 8hp for 400 bucks... now i just need to offload my ted williams. All i can say is dump any off brand air cooled motor and buy a name brand water coolerd, you will be so happy. It starts on half a pull. doesn't die out. is a million times quieter and is waaaay faster. I paid 225 for the ted williams and i am going to sell it for 50 even though it runs... its so temperamental that its not worth the space it takes up to me. about 85 percent of the time i had to figure out what was wrong with the motor when i was on the water... i barley had time to fish and i was never relaxed i was worried about getting back constantly.
 

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

Not all "off brands" are junk. OMC-Gale made a lot of nice little outboards for MW, called Sea King. The big problem is that a lot of other makers made junk for Sea King.

I have a 1948 Gale-made Sea King 1.5 that is a sweet little popper for a one lung.
 

JayH2112

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

I agree with JB, they're not all bad. I have around 20 off brand motors sitting around, and wouldn't mind selling them. If I actually get around to fixing and selling them they are a good disposable $50-$100 motor for someone who can't afford a $400+ (here in ID) motor.
 

CATransplant

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

Not all "off brands" are junk. OMC-Gale made a lot of nice little outboards for MW, called Sea King. The big problem is that a lot of other makers made junk for Sea King.

I have a 1948 Gale-made Sea King 1.5 that is a sweet little popper for a one lung.


I should have excluded the Gale-build outboards in that post. Obviously, an outboard made by OMC doesn't fit the off-brand mold. In fact, some of them are real bargains, particularly the Big Twins from the late 50s and 60s. Typically, they sell for lots less than the equivalent Johnson or Evinrude, and are just as good and reliable. In fact, the MW gale-made Big Twins had fuel pumps before the johnnyrudes did.

However, anything made by Clinton, Eska, and the like is better avoided. They just cause heartaches.
 

tmcalavy

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Re: Sold All My Clunker Off-Brand OBs Today

But they make great boat anchors...or fodder for a club sanctioned Eska toss, Heineken first prize.
 
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