Some Epoxy Fiberglass Help?

Ryan87LX

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I'm just beginning a restoration of a 1964 Power Cat 15T - I'll start a resto thread once I get a little farther along in the project. The floor and transom are rotten and are being replaced, the engine is being brought back to life, and the interior/exterior are going to be spruced up.

Right now I'm trying to decide on the materials to use. I'd prefer to use poly resin because of the cost, but in my discussions with the manufacturers of the resins I have available to me locally, I've decided to go with West Systems Epoxy. It's expensive, but my main concern is safety. Where I live in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada it's still very early spring, and the temperatures can fluctuate quite dramatically. I'm not sure that I could maintain the temperature required for poly resin to cure completely for the length of time I need. The technical people at the poly resin place said I need 60 degrees for 48 hours for a complete cure. The technical people at West Systems said they reach a complete cure in 6-8 hours and the temperature required is just 40 degrees. I KNOW that I can do that.

So, what I'm considering is using a simple layer of fiberglass cloth and resin on the bottom & sides of the floor just to waterproof them before installing, and then sealing & tabbing in the top of the floor with 3 layers of 1708 cloth.

I'd also like to seal the rearmost part and sides of the transom with the fiberglass cloth and epoxy to waterproof them, and again tab in & coat the transom with 3 layers of 1708.

It seems like everyone has an opinion on materials, and it's hard to cut through and find the truth. Your opinions and suggestions are completely welcomed.

Regards,

Ryan
 

Woodonglass

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Re: Some Epoxy Fiberglass Help?

You should be able to maintain the temps required for poly with little problem. Using a poly tarp and heat lamps you can keep the temps on the transom @ 60 degrees overnight and that is plenty of time for the poly to gel. It's done all the time here on iBoats. IHMO there is no need to go to the extra expense of the Epoxy. It's totally up to you but I would not let the temps get in my way. If you DO use the
Epoxy you do NOT use 1708. It has CSM sewn to the back of it and Epoxy does not have styrene in it and styrene is required to break down the CSM fibers. Epoxy only requires Cloth, NO csm. A 17 oz biaxial cloth is all you would need,or a couple of layers of 8 oz.
 

Ryan87LX

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Re: Some Epoxy Fiberglass Help?

You think so?

Perhaps I should run a test before I buy the epoxy resin.

Thanks for the tip.

Ryan
 

oops!

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Re: Some Epoxy Fiberglass Help?

hey Queen City Kid......welcome to iboats....

the info you recived was incorrect.

for poly to cure......its about 60 deg for a few hours.....

epoxy is 24 hours.

woodie is correct....

i do repairs at -10 with a tarp and a heater all winter here in bc.

with a heater, you can maintain substraight temps for a long period of time.

even if the initial cure time is only an hour,,,,and the stuff gets cured till the heat goes out of the reaction (|approx 3/4 hour)....you will still have plenty strong enough for any repair you want to do.

people try to pitch epoxy all the time and stregnth is the selling factor. but the markup is twice as much.
 
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