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monstertails

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I picked up a water pump and lower seal kit for my Force 125, I was wondering if someone could tell me what special tools and their part numbers are needed to be able to break this drive down? I have worked on some old Stringer 800 and such and always ran into needing that one tool, so My plan is to keep this Force around for a bit and would like to start establishing my Force outboard tool collection, Thanks in advance
 

jerryjerry05

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I got your PM.
For some reason the message's don't work right. Read the disclaimer at the top of the forum.

No special tools needed for disassembly.
Then depending on what your doing(replacing gears etc.) you might need
some special things.
Force is one of the easier to work on.
The parts availability?
I've only found 1 thing that was no longer made, it was a rubber bellows used shift rod
on some 90's model lower units, yours isn't affected.

I've owned Forces for over 25 years.
I'd buy again.
Just use the right amount of oil and if you use Ethanol use the additives made for it.
Keep the gas tank full when not using.
Ethanol can melt older hoses.
Change the screens in the recirc system.

Greasing the mid section/kingpin.
The grease has been there for 20+ years.
Use a propane torch to melt the old before you add new grease.
The zerks will pop out if the grease is too hard.

Any questions ask on the forum.
There are some good suggestions here.
 

monstertails

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Thank you so much for the positive response, I’ve heard all day from many people at local marina is how stupid I was for buying it. I don’t mind doing the work on the motors and drive systems to me that’s half the fun in a crazy way, I just thought there would be a little bit more on YouTube or the Internet as far As breakdown procedures and what not on YouTube and the Internet. I purchased a book made by clymer hoping to get some specifics as far as recommended oil and oil weeks with a Drive system. The motor is extremely clean but did have some clear water approximately an ounce When I opened the drain plug and also at idle With your muffs I am not getting any water out with the exhaust so I figured if I’m going to do the Water pump I might as well do lower seals.
 

jerryjerry05

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NO not until you pressure test.

The set screw/drain plug, it can weep or leak a little
no mater what you do to try to seal it.

I've tried pipe dope, thread tape, silicone and painting over it.
Nothing works., both motors leaked.

Look on line and find a method for a pressure tester.
Some bicycle pumps can be adapted to work.

Just remember to not remove the screw on the side.
Even if you want to re seal.
 

monstertails

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Thanks for the advice, I am currently now building a pressure tester using an engine leak down tester and some various fittings and the lower unit for a hose from the pump. I am still waiting on my service manual can you recommend testing pressures for that drive?
 

monstertails

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I was able to use my leak down tester yesterday and it functions as it should, But I was only able to hold 10 psi for about 4 to 5 minutes and then noticed the gauge was down to nine psi and then lost another 1 to 2 psi over the next five minutes. I’m going to assume that since I am doing the water pump I might as well change some seals no?
 

jerryjerry05

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Just figure out where it's leaking??
Spray bottle with mix of soap and water.
Pressurize and then spray the seals.
 
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