Speedboat Restoration

anglersam

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Hi All,<br />I am trying to get a boat on limited budgets, so thought I might buy a speedboat cheap (no interior and do it up myself). As I am only 13, and have NO experience, can you give me any tips on anything I need to know... Thanks,
 

petrolhead

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Re: Speedboat Restoration

Hi anglersam, where in London are you? I'm out at Shepperton myself on the river.<br />Can we have a few more details, what do you want to use the boat for exactly, where will you be using it, and do you need to tow it?<br />How much do you think you'll be able to spend, you say you have no experience, do you have anyone who can help you?<br />There are plenty of cheap boats around, especially at this time of year, but they also need widely varying amounts of work doing to them, and restoring an old boat can be very expensive. If they are cheap chances are there's a good reason for that, i.e. the owner knows it needs a lot of work done that he can't afford and wants to get rid of it.<br />Let's hear your answers to those questions and take it from there, and see if we can help sort you out with something.
 

anglersam

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Re: Speedboat Restoration

Hi Petrol Head, I am looking at a sort of Fletcher Arrow 120 type thing, which seem to be fairly cheap. on Ebay, there are a lot which say "restoration project". Some are as basic as no gear other than steering wheel. If I was to buy one for say £150, I would then have about £250-£300 to redo it (engine over and above this!) so I would like to know if this is totally unfealistic, as I have no experience and no-one who could really help. I am quite good at sticking with things and doing things methodically, and I like building things, and I of course like boating... so put all this together and came up with restore a boat.. I would need to tow it a little (down to the local lake etc.. but not more than that. possibly the occasional tow to Milton Keynes?. On the back of a 1.6ltr Ford Escort. Please reply with some help,
 

petrolhead

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Morning anglersam. Yes I've seen lots of those type of boats on eBay, but from what I've seen most would need a lot more than £250-300 spent to make them sea/river/lake worthy. You could be lucky though and get one that needs less work, you really need to be able to check it over before you buy it though, don't rely on the sellers description, remember they want to get rid of it!<br />I'm not saying they would deliberately lie about the condition, but the words "restoration project" cover everything from a simple repaint to a total rebuild!<br />One thing to remember, a boat like a Fletcher is going to be fast, or should be, and as such it needs to be very sound as it'll take a lot of pounding. Any repairs you do will have to make the boat as good as, if not better than new.<br />I don't want to put you off, but given your lack of experience and limited budget I'd suggest you start with something less demanding, maybe even build your own boat from scratch? That may sound daunting, but may well be a lot easier and cheaper than a restoration job!<br />I'm thinking maybe an open or partially decked flat bottomed or shallow vee type, these can go pretty fast with a modest size outboard, and can be built for a few hundred pounds worth of materials. And plans for these type boats are cheap, even free if you look around on the net. <br />Or have you looked at aluminium boats? My local marina has brand new 12' aluminium boats for under £800, a good used one would be much cheaper, well within your £450 budget and you'd probably even get a motor for that too!<br />Do you have a trailer already? Don't forget to budget for that, a good roadworthy trailer with lightboard may cost another £200.
 

petrolhead

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THIS is the sort of thing I'm talking about.<br />Looks pretty good, not too far away to inspect before buying, £250 BIN price. Cable steering is all there just missing a wheel. You could have something like this on the water for another £100 or so plus a motor. With a decent size motor it'd be quite fast, carry all your mates/girlfriends, easy maintenance, OK it doesn't look as flash as a Fletcher but it'll be a lot easier and cheaper!
 

anglersam

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yes, i'd looked at that boat, but after looking around the net for "repainting an aluminium boat" and finding nothing, I guessed that it was a tricky job. Please could you tell me how to repaint aluminium boats as I am going to be mighty stuck without some help from someone as experienced as you.<br />Thanks,<br />Anglersam
 

anglersam

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Re: Speedboat Restoration

Also, how do you attatch things like seats to a boat like the alu. one on ebay, do you have to weld??
 

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Repainting is easy, all you need is a proper aluminium primer such as zinc chromate or epoxy primer. Scrape and sand all the old crap off, wash down with diluted vinegar or acetic acid solution (from the chemist) and repaint. You can do all the painting with a roller and get a very acceptable finish.<br />There are obviously mounting points for seats already fitted in that boat, but if you wanted to fit more you could bolt or rivet them in place, no need for welding.<br />I can tell you now this would be much easier than learning to do GRP work to the standards that you'd need to repair a Fletcher!<br />Where in London are you?
 

anglersam

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Re: Speedboat Restoration

Also, you mentioned earlier about building my own, I have been looking on some websites for free plans, but is this a good route or not? Thanks,
 

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OK, opposite side to me unfortunately, I have full repsray facilities and was going to offer to help!<br />Be aware that repainting GRP needs a similar technique as aluminium if you want it to look good and last.
 

anglersam

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No, if I was going to build my own, I woudl build it from wood wouldn't I?
 

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Benefits of building your own...you get a new boat, pay for it bit by bit as you buy materials, you know exactly how it went together and how good the workmanship is, you'll learn a lot, great satisfaction, huge choice of designs so you can have exactly what you want, everyone will be really impressed!<br />Downside... you do have to learn how to do it all (but that's no bad thing), it takes a while (but if you started soon you could have it done by next spring), you need to have the space to work (but that's the same for a resto job), risk that you may run out of enthusiasm half-way.
 

petrolhead

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As an example, take a look at the Glen-L website, click on Boat Design Catalog on the left, click on Plans For Rowing and look at Imp, Sissy Do, Mr John, and Row Me.<br />Despite being listed as rowboats these can all take outboards (quite big in the case of the johnboat), and all are very simple construction. <br />Plans are cheap too and Glen-L's after sales backup is second to none. They have an excellent builders forum where you'll find me and many others sharing their problems and advice.
 

anglersam

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Re: Speedboat Restoration

Hi again,<br />I need to seriously think about what route I am going to take. Either I buy a cheapish aluminium boat, repaint it and be done with it or... I buy a wooden kit, build it myself and it will be easy to add aditional things e.g. seats, boxes etc. etc.
 

anglersam

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Right, I have decided alu will be best. No chance of leaks... (hopefully) and it will be easier to maintain.Now all i must do is look for one. If anyone spots a good buy, please post it on here, Thanks
 

anglersam

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For something like the Alu boat on EBay, how much paint would I need? Also does it need to be marine paint, normal paint or antifoul?<br />Please write back
 

petrolhead

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Apart from aluminium primer, which you can't really do without, you can use pretty much anything you like for a topcoat. I'd suggest International Brightsides or Toplac which give a good finish and aren't too expensive, you only need antifoul if you keep the boat in the water all the time, as you'll be trailering it you don't need it.
 
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