Spiny Dogfish as bait?

[vgiljebr]

I kept 2 dogfish when fishing yesterday and was wondering if dogfish can be used as bait for any type of fish, crab or shrimp?

 

[doug brander]

Re: Spiny Dogfish as bait?

If you can find something to do with those darn things we'll all be rich!!!!!
:^

 

[huntandhook]

Re: Spiny Dogfish as bait?

I tried using one for crab bait last year. It was the first time I got skunked crab fishing! I guess even crab won't eat dogfish. Now I just gaff them through the head and throw them overboard. You can't even make dog food out of them due to the high mercury levels.

 

[AJ168]

Re: Spiny Dogfish as bait?

I've heard that if you cut off thier nose they swim in circles on the surface for a few minutes.

 

[bilgeboy]

Re: Spiny Dogfish as bait?

Interesting thread.

You guys have these things in Washington, too? Amazing. I thought they were an East Coast thing. Seem to be more and more of them.

I cut one up a few months ago, bagged a couple of fluke with them. I was really surprised. Never heard of anyone doing it before, but it was moderately successful.

They are a big export from here to England, where they are eaten as fish and chips. I never tried eating one.

I have had a spine buried in my forearm, though. Not fun. They have a mild neurotoxin that gives you a numb and tingling feeling for a couple of days.

Mike

 

[Boatist]

Re: Spiny Dogfish as bait?

There good bait for 6 and 7 gill shark.

 

[ManOfwar690]

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LMAO UM DOGS!!!! the english eat them thats there fish n chips fish as bait not till they rot in the nets and become a mayonase type substance do they catch anything but lobsters but that takes a few days.. they are the top predator fish in the atlantic and nothing but giaant tuna and outher bigger sharks eat them naturaly.. but the us goverment and there school boys siantists think there endangered HA sour note........ there has never been somany dog fish and ive been comercialy fishing since i was 14 on the grand banks for swords.. and still am out there everyday 30 knots or less and im 41 now and yesterday gulf of maine easy 5000 pounds of toss overs on the dogs IN JANUARY>>>> un heard off

 

[rolmops]

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It does take a bit of effort,but if you cut them in narrow lengthwise strips Without the skin. They do fine for cod and pollock.Just jig them.
As for cutting of their nose or killing them out of spite.I do not believe that we should kill anything,just because we don't like it.

 

[Fly Rod]

Re: Spiny Dogfish as bait?

around my way they break the nose and the dog will swim in circles on the surface.

the only good dogfish is a dead one.

i have heard that some striper fishermen cut out the pups from a female and use as striper bait

doug brander
you will not get rich commercially fishing for dogs. There is a Qouta on them and the season just closed. They are worth about 22 cents per pound.

 

[jimlad]

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If you can find something to do with those darn things we'll all be rich!!!!!
:^

the only use i have heard of here in britain is finishing sandpaper for furniture
jimladd

 

[puddle jumper]

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rolmops i cant agrea with you more on the killing for the fun of it

 

[Fly Rod]

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puddle jumper!!

If you depended on your livelihood of catching haddock & cod, flounder, pollock and other edible species, you would have a different atitude towards them scavengers of the ocean. You would be killing thousands of them. When longlining they will just leave the bones on the hook of other fish. When gillnetting you get the same results. They have over populated thanks to the Marine Fisheries. 8)

 

[ManOfwar690]

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THIS IS A SORE SUBJECT FOR ME Im a comercial fisherman i agee they have taken ove the ocean and now you can take 2000 aday in state waters and a 1000 fed waters but its quota is full and u cant take any collage kids and the govement = no comon sence and poor judgement they eat more ground fish then the fishermen could ever dream of catching in a day exp with the goverment allowing the midwater trawlers remove all the feed so the dogs start hunting bigger prey cod haddoc and even monks fish know 2 things they eat and f%ck so when there hugrey there not breeding.. the goverment needs to wake up ! the way i see it. the gov wants to control the fishing industry buy using only large corperatons to fish they want to put the little guy out of buisness.. when we need to put the big guys out to save the fish

 

[martin47]

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as for eating them here in the uk they dont make bad eating cut into strips and deep fryed. and alright for the young ones to eat ( no bones ) as for the fact that you send them over here you can keep the bloody things we have are own thanks...... trying not to catch them is a major problem..i am all for a major culling of them myself.........

 

[Rob454]

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Ive caught them out here in Dana point Southern california. My buddy took one home to cook it. I tasted it. Tastes like fish. We caught abotu 12 in one day but we let most of them go. I didnt go killing them or smashing their heads or any sort of mutilation. You dont have to kill everything you catch.
I only keep some tuna or sea bass but usually I let the fish go.
Rob

 

[kenmyfam]

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As I recall English coastal fish and chip shops will buy all you can get them and that is what you get when you order fish and chips from them. usually sold as cod but some of the shop owners have a slight conciense and call it "rock cod"
I don't know if it is still the same now as I have been in Canada for the last 18 years.

 

[mobyjaws]

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I've heard that they are great for stuffing carp before board baking.

 

[TwoBallScrewBall]

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I've read that if you slice them up and sink them to the bottom, the bleeding scent will keep other dogfish away. Never tried.

 

[RIROCKHOUND]

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The white belly strips work for fluke (summer flounder)
Had an 8ft Blueshark take one live off my lind a couple of weeks back. Guys have been known to use them as live bait for mako's when they get real thick in the chumslick (the dogs) and eat all the mackeral etc.. baits.,..

 

[woodrat]

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I tried barbecueing one once, but it was gross. I would try it again though with another recipe. I am with rolmops on the killing stuff just for the fun of it, or because it is in our way. I cringe just thinking about it. How is that a way to show respect for life/creation/etc?

As for commercial interests, don't even get me started. Some of those guys would like to kill off everything that doesn't have a market value this week. And of course, if you ask a commercial fisherman, nothing they have ever done has ever had a negative impact on fishing. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault. To be fair, a lot of sport fishermen are the same way.

Ecosystems are more complicated than our narrow human commercial interests can account for, and if there wasn't a purpose for the spiny dogfish to fulfill, then god/evolution (take your pick) wouldn't have created them.