Stator & Trigger what Amps

[catjoyce]

Hey Guys,
I am looking for a stator and trigger for the Mariner 200hp year 1989
Engine serial no. 0B276365. I know that there are three different type 15 Amp, 16Amp & a 45 Amp.
How do I tell which one is for me? Cant seem to pin it down in any of the posts and threads I gone through.
Thanks
Cathal J

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Any Takers here please!

 

[j_martin]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Take some pictures and post em. Flywheel top, and where the two yellow wires are connected. Then we can positively identify the system.

Complicating the issue is the fact that it's possible to swap out whole generating systems.

hope it helps
John

 

[Dukedog]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Are the coils mounted on an aluminum plate (three on each side with trim solinoids in the middle) or they mounted in a vertical line on the divider plate?
That serial number should be a 16 amp chargin' system. Have you got clam shell or a bucket cowl?

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Clam shell cowl, will take pics also and post same as requested
Coils mounted in a vertical line on the divider plate between cylinder banks.

thanks
cathal J

 

[lprizman]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

you can cross reference here @ the Iboat store, boat motor parts,,select the stator request and look for your serial # under the part designation.

 

[Dukedog]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Gonna be a 16 amp. Just a little information. V6 Mercs had only 9, 16 and 40 amp systems until you get to some of tha 3.0 motors with alternators. Don't know where you got those numbers. Your number comes up as a '88. Probably built as a '88 sold as '89 maybe. Ya never know with Merc/Mariner..

Stator # 398 5454A35
trigger #96455A6 or A9 or A11 (Any one of these)

This only applies if no one has done any "southern engineering" on tha motor

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Thanks Dukedog,
Is the one listed in red then the one for me. I found it in the Iboats store here but can seem to find the numbers you quoted me!


HP Model Cyl. Year Serial Number CDI Stator Mallory Stator Sierra Stator
200 15 Amp 6 1982-1990 6073192-C239553 174-5456-16 14)
200 16 Amp 6 1985-1999 6625221-OG201874 174-5456-16 (14)

200 40 Amp 6 1989-1991 OG201875-OG30345 174-9610K2

Thanks
Again
cathal J

 

[Dukedog]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

The numbers I gave you are OEM. The numbers and parts you have are aftermarket. Just to compare. How do you get two different amp systems with tha same part number?

HP Model Cyl. Year Serial Number CDI Stator Mallory Stator Sierra Stator
200 15 Amp 6 1982-1990 6073192-C239553 174-5456-16 (14) - -
200 16 Amp 6 1985-1999 6625221-OG201874 174-5456-16 (14)

Your "red" number should be the right one..........

Theres something really strange with their numbers. Tha 16 amp went completly away in "89 on all 135,150,175.200 production motors. They ALL went to tha 40 amp.

 

[j_martin]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Like I said, complicating the issue......

John

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

I will get pictures and post hopfully this will cler it up.
By the way what does OEM stand for:redface:
Thanks
cathal J

 

[Dukedog]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Genuine Merc/Mariner parts...........
Original Equipment Manufactor

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Hey Guys
see the attached pics hope this can clear up any confusion!
Thanks
Cathal J

 

[Dukedog]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

16 amp with regulator...........

 

[Faztbullet]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

The part numbers you need for the aftermaket stator and trigger are:
stator................(CDI) 174-5456-16
trigger...............(CDI) 134-6456
If your running a lot of accessorys trash the voltage regulator on top of the engine.

 

[j_martin]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

A picture is worth a thousand (or so) words.

Now you know what you have, and what to do with it.

John

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Eventually got round to replacing stator and the correct one was the 200 16 Amp 6 1985-1999 6625221-OG201874 174-5456-16 (14) as per the above.Engine fired up first time and idled and picked up ok. Then changed tanks and started to playup on old fuel! Then went back to original tank and it became difficult to start and had to keep rpm at 3,000 once I droped below it stalled. Would this be bad gas or could it be the low speed idle stablizer?
Any thoughts. Will run it agin for 10 minutes or so on the fresh tanks and see if it will idle again. Any suggestions help would be great.
Cathal

 

[j_martin]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

Eventually got round to replacing stator and the correct one was the 200 16 Amp 6 1985-1999 6625221-OG201874 174-5456-16 (14) as per the above.Engine fired up first time and idled and picked up ok. Then changed tanks and started to playup on old fuel! Then went back to original tank and it became difficult to start and had to keep rpm at 3,000 once I droped below it stalled. Would this be bad gas or could it be the low speed idle stablizer?
Any thoughts. Will run it agin for 10 minutes or so on the fresh tanks and see if it will idle again. Any suggestions help would be great.
Cathal

Odds are you plugged it up, or the fuel pump just decided to crap out. The idle fuel passages are tiny, and easy to mess up. The thumb sized filter on that thing is nothing to write home about either.

As fussy as these things are, and as expensive as it can get if you go lean on them, I can't understand why anybody would try to burn old fuel in em. I use the season end leftover fuel in the family bus, well diluted with good fuel.

If you suspect the add-on timing module (idle stabilizer or advance) just disconnect it. As a matter of fact, if they short out you'll go to about 40 degrees advance at wot and grenade it before you realize what hit you. That's why most of us discard the thing.

hope it helps
John

 

[catjoyce]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

The part numbers you need for the aftermaket stator and trigger are:
stator................(CDI) 174-5456-16
trigger...............(CDI) 134-6456
If your running a lot of accessorys trash the voltage regulator on top of the engine.

I drained out the carbs and got a tank full of new gas and disconnected the what I believed to be the voltage regulator on the top of the engine just for the sake of it. I assume that this is the voltage reg as I couldnt see anything the ressembled the sparke advance module. The engine ran away fine and idled as well. Is this just coinsidence? I reconnected the regulaor and it didnt realy affect the engine running? Dont know what to think now.!! Any thoughts

Cathal

 

[j_martin]

Re: Stator & Trigger what Amps

The voltage regulator is about 1 1/2 inches square with 2 screw terminals. The advance module is about 3x5 with a 3 wire harness coming out of it.

The crappy fuel was the culprit. Everything else is coincidental.

Get a book so you can identify common parts in a well lit room.

hope it helps
John