Stern drive Case Material

tfitch03

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Anyone know what type of metal Stern drives are made of? Found a crack to weld.
 

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Typically aluminum.
Do you have a picture of the cracked area? Not all areas on a stern drive are ideal for welding.
 

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Re: Stern drive Case Material

I don't have any direct pictures of the crack but take a look at this picture and you can see the crack on the starboard side of the drive (left hand side of the picture) slightly above the bottom mounting hole. It is about 1"-1.5"s long. IMG_1868.jpg
 

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I don't have any direct pictures of the crack but take a look at this picture and you can see the crack on the starboard side of the drive (left hand side of the picture) slightly above the bottom mounting hole. It is about 1"-1.5"s long. View attachment 180833

Ayuh,.... You'd have to strip it to the bare case, then try to weld it...

It'd be tough to get it right, without distortin' the case...
 

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Sounds like a case for Duct Tape!

(Sarcasm of course)
 

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yeah, strip it down and either jb weld it or use some aluminum brazing rods.
 

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Would really need to see a better picture of the crack.
 

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Would really need to see a better picture of the crack.

Yeah. Completely disassemble the drive, drill and grind the crack completely out, weld it up.

Reassemble the drive and go boating......... after you get it running, start a "drive-fund" to accumulate money to replace the drive with a new SEI kit/drive when the welded drive self-destructs.
 

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Yeah. Completely disassemble the drive, drill and grind the crack completely out, weld it up.

Reassemble the drive and go boating......... after you get it running, start a "drive-fund" to accumulate money to replace the drive with a new SEI kit/drive when the welded drive self-destructs.

What would cause it to self destruct? Am I under thinking this?

I will post pictures of the crack tonight or tomorrow morning.
 

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What would cause it to self destruct? Am I under thinking this?

I will post pictures of the crack tonight or tomorrow morning.

I am thinking you had a severe enough stike with a foreign object that caused the crack. A crack in the case that is subsequently welded might just cause enough of a mis-alignment inside that would result in an eventual problem.

Most of the time the only successful case welding is only in areas like the skeg or other external areas. You probably don't have a lot to lose........here, to effectively weld , the case would probably need to be completely disassembled because the crack is directly where a bearing is located.

Dissassenbly & reassembly usually requires some rather specialized tools and skills.

Most people don't have have those tools or skills unless they do it for a living.

If you have to pay someone to do it, in addition to the welding (which is not all that hard for aluminum alloys) you will most likley need to replace (add/subtract) shims to reset the bearing preloads etc.

You wouldn't put the thing back together with the old seals so you would need new seals, etc and any other parts that you may not use twice..........

There's also the outside chance that you might need a new bearing or dog-clutch if they're "close".......... (you wouldn't put it back together with worn-out bearings)

So in view of all of the above, it's looking (labor-wise )more like a rebuild................. Doing a rebuild on an Alpha is almost always close (parts and labor) to just buying a new SEI drive with a warranty.

In the case of a Cobra, you have a drive that, while it was excellent in it's day, some parts are simply not available anymore......making it NOT a very good candidate for putting a LOT of money in.

In this case, I might just run the thing until it "blows" and just replace it altogether.

It's up to you. but if you heat that case up enough to "weld" it without taking it apart, you'll have a lot more problems than the crack.....and after you take it apart, you may have the same problems unless you weld it inside and out, put it on a milling machine and line-bore the upper bearing area (where you weld it)

In that event.......it's better to just replace the upper case. I probably wouldn't try to weld the case in a bearing "support" area.
 

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Could have been a crack caused by water trapped in a cavity. That is why I want to se a better picture.
 

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Here we go with some better pictures. I might have a pretty good idea of what caused this crack. A couple years ago we were running at about 20mph when the engine just stopped dead. We had seized a bearing in the upper gear housing of the outdrive and it stopped our motor. Well...looking at where the crack is and considering the rotation of the engine and the force behind it as the bearing seized and stopped the motor; I think the torque of that event was so great it found the weakest spot and cracked it. We had the drive rebuilt after that and it has done fine. I am not saying definitively that is where it came from but it is at least my hypothesis.

My main goal here is sealing the case to keep water out. I can't afford to replace the outdrive as long as this one is working so like it someone said it before, run it until it comes apart (which I hope wont be for a long time). Thanks for looking.
 

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Re: Stern drive Case Material

Here we go with some better pictures. I might have a pretty good idea of what caused this crack. A couple years ago we were running at about 20mph when the engine just stopped dead. We had seized a bearing in the upper gear housing of the outdrive and it stopped our motor. Well...looking at where the crack is and considering the rotation of the engine and the force behind it as the bearing seized and stopped the motor; I think the torque of that event was so great it found the weakest spot and cracked it. We had the drive rebuilt after that and it has done fine. I am not saying definitively that is where it came from but it is at least my hypothesis.

My main goal here is sealing the case to keep water out. I can't afford to replace the outdrive as long as this one is working so like it someone said it before, run it until it comes apart (which I hope wont be for a long time). Thanks for looking.

Ayuh,.... Due to the piece bein' pushed Out, I'd sooner think that cavity had water in it, 'n it Froze, splittin' the case....
 

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Bond-o, that is a great observation and something I thought about but in Dallas we typically don't get very many days below freezing. Maybe 1-2 days in the past 2 years have been below freezing for longer than 24hrs at a time plus it stays in a garage when it is out of the water.
 

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Ayuh,... It would only take, Once....

JB weld it, 'n run it til she pukes...
 

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That is where I thought the crack was and that is why I wanted the better picture. Your bearing seizing likely did not cause the crack but freezing water. I wouldn't bother with it. Pulling the drive every year before you winterize would have helped you here.
 

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Im with Bondo - Groove it out and JB Weld the crack and run it.

I know nothing about OMC Drives but.......

Looks like a water cavity to me………you could Weld it from the outside……..also would have to be someone that knows what they are doing. Like clean up really good, drill a hole at the end of the crack, groove out the crack for max penetration.
Tig weld is the only way to go.! You can try the stick method but it will be nasty.
Plus use a heat sink around the weld area….they make this stuff in a calking tube, goop it outside the weld area and it will suck the heat up

Don’t grind the weld off trying to make it pretty…it will just weaken it.

Just my thoughts.

Good Luck!
 
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