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Well said Plywoody...<br /><br />Education is the best way.<br />Kids of today are far more intelligent than you can imagine.<br /><br />Banning them from this or that will peak their curiosity and they will no doubt pursue it as soon as your back is turned.<br /><br />I don't sugar-coat much with my teens. I tell them like it is. Problem with that is... They've already heard most of it from school!<br /><br />H.
 

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A "Hot Topic" <br />As Adults we agree we have the choice to (out of respect for BoatingFool" I will say make Choices.." (Turn the Ch**) LOL<br />For our Children... We want to help them make choices..<br />But Always can't.. we were ALL kids once. Some of us really had Blond Choices (ME) dot dot dot ...By the Grace of God I lived through Childhood..so did children of the 1400's 1500's 1600's 1700's 1800's 1900's and now.. think about it .. in 1865 there was noelectricity.. in very few towns..<br />By 1900 only the very rich had electric light bulbs.. everyone else still used gas or candles... ever try to look for a sewing needle by candles??
 

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Went to a Catholic school growing up in Ohio, and those "sheltered" Catholic girls were as wild as wild could be, if you know what I mean, especially the Redheaded ones. ;) Hate to say this BF but "turn the channel"
 

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tyerlin, I resemble that remark. :p <br /><br />I was one of those sheltered Catholic Girls who wanted to be a nun until the 8th grade. Then anything tabu or forbidden became life's challenge. When I became a parent myself, I tried desperately to protect my child like mine did me. I think its all about education. We can't possibly keep our children from seeing or hearing everything society puts out there, we must do our jobs as parents to teach them right from wrong. By the sounds of it BF, your children will have no problem making the right choices with a dad like you to guide them.<br /><br /> :)
 

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Tyrlin and turn the channel folks,<br /><br />I thought my 11 and 8 year olds and I were watching the Superbowl..?<br /><br /> Are you suggesting that I ignore indecent behavior/acts in the presence of our/my children?<br /><br />Tell you what...suppose you and your family went out to dinner one night. Well your enjoying dinner and the waiter/waitris is informing you of the specials....well!.. all of a sudden their wardrobe malfunctions and a protruding SEX-organ is swinging around your dinner table. Would you:<br /><br />1. Turn the channel(ie.leave and go elsewhere).<br />2. Get phone numbers for future availability. <br />3. Ignore it, mind your own business and <br />continue with dinner.<br />4. Incourage your family to be tolerant of this behavior and participate if feeling froggy.<br />5. Feel completely secure knowing you and your family can tolerate and participate in any behavior what so ever?<br /><br />I cant believe folks would condone a lewd lucivious(sp)act on a child. I believe it is a felony.<br /><br />Unless...? :eek: <br /><br /> :(
 

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I cant believe folks would condone a lewd lucivious(sp)act on a child. I believe it is a felony.<br /><br />Unless...?
OddJob, I once was carrying a tray of drinks at a pool party and my bikini strap broke. I didn't feel that I was being lewd, lucivious or otherwise being indecent in the presence of a child. It was just an accident, so your example is NOT a good one.<br /><br />In a previous post, I stated how furious I was about the Janet Jackson deal because she pulled a fast one on all of us, we did NOT have a choice. What we thought was perfectly safe viewing for children was not and Jackson should pay a steep fine for her actions.<br /><br />The Stern deal is not even close to the same thing IMO.
 

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Your right LF..not a clear example...your making part of the point I tried to do...I got carried away trying to illustrate the upsurd with upsurdity(sp?).....The point I should make is...How do I know I need to change the channel of a family event?..stern or superbowl, neither advised parental guidance.<br /><br />What happened with you was not rehearsed or corographed(sp),obviously an accident. Accidents are easy to explain to a child. <br /><br />What stern does and janette did is one in the same...<br />As I said above I did have to turn stern off with my boys in my truck unless I could explain what a bj is for one thing....<br /><br />Wait a minute,. are we talking about the same Howard Stern? <br />The one I've heard on the radio openly talks about sex, all sorts of copulation and propositions his sevices to nearly every women guest he has on the show? I've only tuned in a handful of times but I have no trouble recalling the events. <br /><br />Forgive me if I have made another mistake.. :) <br /><br />Respectfully Ladyfish, I have a hard time believing that you have listened (radio) to Stern enough (IMO) to make your comparison. Theres absolutely no way anyone on this board would carry on among friend and family as he does everyday on his show. <br /><br />I think turn the channel is not an option, nor a civil response to the issue...As I just pointed out. :)
 

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bf- i was trying to say what plywood and homer did. it's about education. if you raise your kids right, you don't have to worry about what they may hear on a radio station. you know the old saying, you can't protect them from everything.<br /><br />i'd rather spend my time educating my daughter, than crusading against everything in the world that could hurt her.<br /><br />i'll stick with my original comment- if i'm worried about what she'll hear on the howard stern show and it somehow damaging her, i didn't do my job.
 

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OddJob, you're right. I never listened to his radio show but I have caught his TV show on "E" Entertainment Network. It comes on 10 PM CST. Trust me I am no Howard Stern fan, he expolits women and teaches young men how to become young women's worst nightmares.<br /><br />My concern is duofold; first, whether or not the government should censor radio, TV, and internet. Secondly, if you censor one way then how long do you think it will take for the flip side of this to surface? Then it will be banishment of Christian radio and TV.
 

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Quote:<br /><br />bf- i was trying to say what plywood and homer did. it's about education. if you raise your kids right, you don't have to worry about what they may hear on a radio station. you know the old saying, you can't protect them from everything.<br />___________________________________________________<br /><br />So if you don't teach your 8yr old what a BJ or a knob***, anal @#$%$, you are not raising them right?<br /><br />Silly me, I thought raising a child right didn't necessarily involve robbing them of their childhood. Didn't know that it was someone elses decision when a child should be tainted. Could you please post your phone number so we can get your permission when to tell or not tell them about beastility. But knowing folks's drive home stroking it with Howard is far more important than any child I should not have any opinion.. I bet this gets poofed cuz not even our mods think this is appropriate. <br /><br />What this guy talks about is worse than an "R" rated movie. You need ID to get into one of those. I got it how about a program that requires you to be over 17 to buy a radio, and better yet throw in a 3 day waiting period. :confused: <br /><br />Public speach was never intended to include this crap. The airwaves are a public trust and as long as they are, they need to be maintained for the least amoung us.<br /><br />Where is the Public Benefit in Howards show???
 

oddjob

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i'd rather spend my time educating my daughter, than crusading against everything in the world that could hurt her.<br />
Mattt I really think you mis-spoke here....if I'm wrong please try to refrase it for me. <br /><br />Depending on the context(2004), crusading is the same as educating someone to anothers beliefs, experiences, observations and sometimes facts. <br /><br />Just looked it up in Websters newworld pocket dictionary:<br /><br />crusade-united action against an abuse.<br /> :)
 

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And let the kids watch the NHL and explain to them why it's ok for grown men to fight. ;)
 

POINTER94

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SBN,<br /><br />It is an extension of diplomacy.. :)
 

wilkin250r

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Setting acceptable guidelines is not the same as censorship, and guidelines are subject to change. In the 1920's and 30's when radio first came about, the likes of Howard Stern certainly would not have been tolerated, and nobody would have been crying "Free Speech" even though the First Amendment had been in affect for over 100 years. <br /><br />Sure, we're free to change the channel, but that doesn't mean that we as a society are going to tolerate hardcore porn and beastiality airing on a public station on Saturday mornings. As it has been pointed out, freedom of speech does not mean freedom to be heard. Through the outcry over Janet Jackson, we as a SOCIETY are voicing our opinions that we do not approve of the likes of Howard Stern or others, censorship has nothing to do with it.
 

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And another thing... :p <br /><br />Matt I had a chance to read this once I got home and I don't want you to think I am attacking you personally. <br /><br />I was writing this between arguing with my boss who hasn't had an original thought since the Reagan administration, and all the other things that make life somewhat unpleasant.<br /><br />I respect your point and position, I just wish I had been a little more articulate in my previous posts. :eek: :eek: <br /><br />Thanks.
 

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Well I'm with boatingfool - I listen to Stern every once in a while and get a laugh but I am an adult. As soon as I became a parent I realized that I can't monitor what my son does 24/7/365. I don't like censorship as a rule but I think society has a right to demand that adult content be restricted to certain hours on public airwaves just like zoning laws keep adult stores in certain areas of a city. Sure as a parent my job is to teach my son but what about the millions of kids with neglectful parents? Do we just abandon them?<br /><br />The other issue with Stern is one he himself acknowledged the other day; he inspires many imitators and these imitators go too far - Stern mentioned one that was involved in some nasty sexual harassment that really did some damage to a lady at one of the radio stations. The problem with the "anything goes" attitude is that it puts us a slippery slope to the gutter and turning the station no longer works because you can't get away from the stuff.<br /><br />One of the most important jobs of a society (and all adults) is the protection of children - from them selves, from dangerous people and even from neglectful parents. And if that means I can't listen to Howard talk about Bookaki (sp) at 7am, so be it. :D
 

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Well folks.. last night I was doing as usually a copy or cut and paste from word to here. However last night my computer locked up and what I didn't want to say was printed here.. What I really wanted to say in this post was that insn't it nice to see that we all can play well in the sand box together.. we can disagree on politics but would stand together when it comes to our children.. well said Link.. Thank You.. :p
 

mattttt25

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oddjob- sorry if i misused the word. what i was trying to say is this- i will do everything in my power and give 100% in educating my daughter on what is right and wrong, how to be a good person, etc. i'd rather focus on her, instead of campaigning (right word?) to eliminate everything that could possibily harm her.<br /><br />in a very simple example, i will explain to her the dangers of eating too much fast food, rather than trying to shut down every mcdonalds.
 

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mattttt25 - you are right. It is a fine line. However, you have to look at each case differently and assess the risk/benefit. Remember there are lots of children in this country w/o good parents - far too many in fact. We can't just abandon them can we? Can't we just say to the Sterns of the world that they have to broadcast after 10pm or move to a pay system like satellite? Does that really hurt society? it is just like zoning laws. The exist for the good of the community.
 

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i watched stern the other night and he was interviewing Carrot Top the comedian. the whole thing was very subdued. looks like he doesn't want to kill the golden goose,,,if he gets thrown off tv he's a goner ...let's wait and see how long he can keep it up.
 
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