Stingray boats?

bruceb58

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I think SeaRay took a hit when Brunswick bought them.

Regarding 80's Bayliners and StingRays, should have said late 80's as that is when quality started suffering. I am more familiar with Bayliners as I owned one of them.
 

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My brother bought a 19 footer with 4.3 new in '01. Been a great boat for he and his family. Boat is in excellent condition still. Same fit and finish as a Bayliner? Pfft!!

Performance? That boat'll run 53+ mph with half a dozen crew & their gear onboard! The hull design is indeed called 'Zplane' btw. Stingray claims 50mph for the 18' 3.0 with a light load. A very light load I'd imagine but still that's purty impressive?

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Stingray if it was in good shape & the price was right.
 

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I've had a few boats, two of them Stingrays. I would not hesitate to recommend them. I admit that they aren't a Cobalt or Doral but they aren't anywhere near that price either. In my opinion they are probably the best value in boating. They are efficient to run and fast. They may be priced in the same range as a Bayliner but have better resale and "they aren't a Bayliner". Build quality is good and the company is second to none to deal with - period. My very first boat was a 1991 17' 536ZPX with a 4.3 175hp and a 23" prop ( not exactly set up for towing) it would do 56mph but would still haul a skier with a boat load of young buys. My current Stingray is a 220LX with a 5.0 260hp and 21" alum. prop. It will max out in the mid 50's (Should hit around 60 with the right stainless prop) but has no problem coming out of the hole with a boat load of kids and pulling a 4 person tube.

My suggestion is to figure out what you want. If you want a great all around boat that performs exceptionally well, is efficient to run, is well finished and won't break the bank then Stingray will fit your needs. If you are looking for a fancier boat from a manufacturer that takes those extra steps in fit and finish and you price isn't an issue then go right to the top and buy a new Cobalt or Doral.

By the way don't listen to jkust. Stingrays are well known for their excellent handling. In all my research i've never found anything but praise for the hull and handling. Those comments on the handling always seem to come from people who own some other brand of boat. 18 or 19 foot boats, no matter what brand it is, don't handle big chop well.
 

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I've had a few boats, two of them Stingrays. I would not hesitate to recommend them. I admit that they aren't a Cobalt or Doral but they aren't anywhere near that price either. In my opinion they are probably the best value in boating. They are efficient to run and fast. They may be priced in the same range as a Bayliner but have better resale and "they aren't a Bayliner". Build quality is good and the company is second to none to deal with - period. My very first boat was a 1991 17' 536ZPX with a 4.3 175hp and a 23" prop ( not exactly set up for towing) it would do 56mph but would still haul a skier with a boat load of young buys. My current Stingray is a 220LX with a 5.0 260hp and 21" alum. prop. It will max out in the mid 50's (Should hit around 60 with the right stainless prop) but has no problem coming out of the hole with a boat load of kids and pulling a 4 person tube.

My suggestion is to figure out what you want. If you want a great all around boat that performs exceptionally well, is efficient to run, is well finished and won't break the bank then Stingray will fit your needs. If you are looking for a fancier boat from a manufacturer that takes those extra steps in fit and finish and you price isn't an issue then go right to the top and buy a new Cobalt or Doral.

By the way don't listen to jkust. Stingrays are well known for their excellent handling. In all my research i've never found anything but praise for the hull and handling. Those comments on the handling always seem to come from people who own some other brand of boat. 18 or 19 foot boats, no matter what brand it is, don't handle big chop well.

Well said!
 

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By the way don't listen to jkust. Stingrays are well known for their excellent handling. In .
Their stability in even medium chop is terrible. Stability and handling are not the same. They have a lot working against them as they handle as intended. It only takes a few water tests with different boats to see what I am referring to. They are fast and light at the expense of a rougher ride as compared to their cohorts. No need to "listen to me". It is what it is. PSBourque do not disparage me in a post. Take your two posts and leave if you feel the need to call me or other members a liar in a backhanded manner. Not the best way to enter the iBoats discussion.
 

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Their stability in even medium chop is terrible. Stability and handling are not the same. They have a lot working against them as they handle as intended. It only takes a few water tests with different boats to see what I am referring to. They are fast and light at the expense of a rougher ride as compared to their cohorts. No need to "listen to me". It is what it is. PSBourque do not disparage me in a post. Take your two posts and leave if you feel the need to call me or other members a liar in a backhanded manner. Not the best way to enter the iBoats discussion.

This thread is really starting to go south. I won't defend the whole Stingray genre here since I own one and don't want to be lopsided on my opinion. I will say this though, I know plenty of other 18 ft. boat owners, and there is not one of them that can hammer down in any kind of chop at the expense of control. It's just the dynamics of small craft. Stingray does have a patented hull design built for speed but again it's not inherent to only that brand. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Now now no need to get all poopy pants over anything boys and girls. Don't think I heard anybody say Chaparral was a 'bad' boat. Why so testy jk? Just because the world's crumbling around us doesn't mean we can't be sociable.

Personally I couldn't care less what kind of boat you own. Just so long as it floats and you're out on the water. Makes no difference to me if I smoke a Chaparral or a Bayliner?
 

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Now now no need to get all poopy pants over anything boys and girls. Don't think I heard anybody say Chaparral was a 'bad' boat. Why so testy jk? Just because the world's crumbling around us doesn't mean we can't be sociable.

Personally I couldn't care less what kind of boat you own. Just so long as it floats and you're out on the water. Makes no difference to me if I smoke a Chaparral or a Bayliner?

Yea me too. As long as I'm leaving a Glasstron or Baja in my wake I don't care:D:p
 

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long as I'm leaving a Glasstron or Baja in my wake I don't care
Them thar's fightin' words. You watch your tongue mister! Heh heh heh.

Hey for reference check out Glastron vs Stingray @ uzicanvas on Youtube. 'Bout 53 or 54 mph with the bimini up. She was runnin' really good that day.
 

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Them thar's fightin' words. You watch your tongue mister! Heh heh heh.

Hey for reference check out Glastron vs Stingray @ uzicanvas on Youtube. 'Bout 53 or 54 mph with the bimini up. She was runnin' really good that day.
LOL:D I'm glad some people still have a sense of humor!
 

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Them thar's fightin' words. You watch your tongue mister! Heh heh heh.

Hey for reference check out Glastron vs Stingray @ uzicanvas on Youtube. 'Bout 53 or 54 mph with the bimini up. She was runnin' really good that day.

Hey!!!He popped a wheelie on the water!!!!!
 

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Just wanting to aboutthese boats. Arethe quality? Here is an ad. I know it is pricey but it is Canadian dollars.

Hey Forbin - I don't think it's pricey 'cause it's CAN dollars. US conversion only knocks the number down by about $500 and MSRP is just a few thousand over that on a NEW boat. At $12K I think that boat is over priced. Expand your search range out a little and see what kind of prices you find - maybe even look across the boarder a little bit in Michigan to see how prices compare. I think I'd be wanting to get that boat more like $9K CAN.

Or since it's end of season - take a look at what a brand new one will cost you. Maybe you can find a nice deal.
 

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Jkust Relax there Lieutenant, my remarks were not meant to be disparaging and i didn't call you a liar in a backhanded manner. No need to be so touchy. I just don't happen to agree with you and frankly i have never read any professional review that would agree with you. If you can show me one then I will gladly come over to your side. I have been in a lot of small runabouts and owned a few myself. Yes there are some that ride a little better than others in chop, and I wouldn't say that Stingray is on the top of the list but to say that it is terrible is simply wrong in my opinion and misleading. I'm not sure where you are coming from with your comment that "stability even in medium chop is terrible". Again this is a new one to me. I assume you are talking about stability at speed, granted Stingrays do ride on the last few feet of hull when running at speed and trimmed up giving a very light ride (not ideal for medium chop), and in medium chop you want the deeper part of the hull to cut the waves but that is just trim. I've been in my first 17 1/2' Stingray in just about every condition even small craft warnings, a friends 19'Stingray at 70mph offshore in medium chop and decent sized rolling swells, and my current 22' Stingray in everything but big chop. Never experienced this terrible stability that you refer to. And yes i've driven and had other boats for comparison.- But then again i am only a "cadet":)

These boats are what they are, excellent value, fast, efficient and handle well and the company is second to none when it comes to service. They are not offshore boats but neither are 19' Cobalts, Four Winns, Bayliners or even Chaps. If you want a boat to handle big water then don't buy a small runabout.

I agree 100% with V153 - it doesn't matter what kind of boat you have as long as your on the water. Forbin - good luck in your search i'm sure you enjoy your boat no matter what the decision.
 

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Jkust Relax there Lieutenant, my remarks were not meant to be disparaging and i didn't call you a liar in a backhanded manner. No need to be so touchy. I just don't happen to agree with you and frankly i have never read any professional review that would agree with you. If you can show me one then I will gladly come over to your side. I have been in a lot of small runabouts and owned a few myself. Yes there are some that ride a little better than others in chop, and I wouldn't say that Stingray is on the top of the list but to say that it is terrible is simply wrong in my opinion and misleading. I'm not sure where you are coming from with your comment that "stability even in medium chop is terrible". Again this is a new one to me. I assume you are talking about stability at speed, granted Stingrays do ride on the last few feet of hull when running at speed and trimmed up giving a very light ride (not ideal for medium chop), and in medium chop you want the deeper part of the hull to cut the waves but that is just trim. I've been in my first 17 1/2' Stingray in just about every condition even small craft warnings, a friends 19'Stingray at 70mph offshore in medium chop and decent sized rolling swells, and my current 22' Stingray in everything but big chop. Never experienced this terrible stability that you refer to. And yes i've driven and had other boats for comparison.- But then again i am only a "cadet":)

These boats are what they are, excellent value, fast, efficient and handle well and the company is second to none when it comes to service. They are not offshore boats but neither are 19' Cobalts, Four Winns, Bayliners or even Chaps. If you want a boat to handle big water then don't buy a small runabout.

I agree 100% with V153 - it doesn't matter what kind of boat you have as long as your on the water. Forbin - good luck in your search i'm sure you enjoy your boat no matter what the decision.

Your only a Cadet? Drop down and give us 12 pushups right now! :D:p
 

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You had to bring up that young thing didn't you....Hold on I have to grab my Lipitor and Viagra....I'll be right back.......:rolleyes:
 
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