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PiratePast40

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The way it comes back up so fast makes me wonder how much the stock market depends on emotional smoke and mirrors!
 

scipper77

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The way it comes back up so fast makes me wonder how much the stock market depends on emotional smoke and mirrors!

It certainly does seem that way. Short term at least. As far as long term What are we supposed to do with the money we just pulled out?? Stuff it in our mattress.
 

Tim Frank

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My broker called me today.

After explaining their mid-term economic projections and inflationary impacts, corporate earnings forecasts , and global trends in manufacturing and supply chain operations, he stated that their consensus is that they are bullish on lotteries. :eek: :facepalm:
 

scipper77

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It certainly does seem that way. Short term at least. As far as long term What are we supposed to do with the money we just pulled out?? Stuff it in our mattress.

Buy a new boat and a lot of fishing stuff.

Ahh yes the one investment guaranteed to lose more value than the market. Somehow this still sounds like a good idea to me;)
 

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The way it comes back up so fast makes me wonder how much the stock market depends on emotional smoke and mirrors!


It has always worked that way.

The pros sell first as the market first starts to decline and takes profits.

The scardy cats sell while the market is tumbling (or has tumbled) and loses big time.

One thing is absoutely certain - when people sell, when the maket is crashing, or has crashed, there is always someone there, ready to buy.

If and when that does not happen, it won't matter anyway
 

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The way it comes back up so fast makes me wonder how much the stock market depends on emotional smoke and mirrors!

Short term investing does depend on emotion. The private investor hears the talking heads say how terrible it is going to be and they react to that, not on the market fundamentals. The fundamentals of the market did not change over the weekend ... a very large company, Standard and Poor's, came out and said they thought the US government was not handling their debt properly and therefore the US government's stability was being downgraded. The government didn't change, but what a company said did change. And the downgrading was to a AA+ from a AAA (not a far downgrade, but a downgrade).

The hope was over the weekend that cooler heads would prevail, but the media kept the pressure on to push the market down, because they like to report bad news. And on Monday morning, the market reacted emotionally. Today, it bounced back a little, reflecting more of where it should have fallen. Tomorrow, hopefully, it will have a day to stablize and then we can go from there.
 

bruceb58

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Companies represented in the S&P 500 probably have more cash than they ever have. Many companies are announcing profits compared to 1Q 2009. Fundamentals are there to have a good stock market. This was all emotional.
 

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My broker called me today.

After explaining their mid-term economic projections and inflationary impacts, corporate earnings forecasts , and global trends in manufacturing and supply chain operations, he stated that their consensus is that they are bullish on lotteries. :eek: :facepalm:

....and canned goods, propane and bottled water.:D:D;)
BP:)
No Gold????
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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It certainly does seem that way. Short term at least. As far as long term What are we supposed to do with the money we just pulled out?? Stuff it in our mattress.

Buy a new boat and a lot of fishing stuff.
LOL, You'll be broke but happy. :)

My broker called me today.

After explaining their mid-term economic projections and inflationary impacts, corporate earnings forecasts , and global trends in manufacturing and supply chain operations, he stated that their consensus is that they are bullish on lotteries. :eek: :facepalm:
What, no gold. :facepalm:
 

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If you are at retirement age, you should be minimizing your exposure in the stock market and should be in fixed income if a drop in equities is going to affect your ability to live comfortably. If not, that is major gambling.

For all people that are a ways from retirement and continually contributing to a 401K, these drops help your dollar cost averaging. As long as you don't need your money now, these dips are just allowing you to buy more shares for the same amount of money and will benefit you in the long run.

That is good info.:)
 

Rocky_Road

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One tip: buy General Electric, the CEO sleeps in the Lincoln Bedroom and never wants for government energy contracts!

I sold everything last winter, and will be putting the results in an annuity when I find my savings unable to keep me in beer.

Happy boating!
 

cgd7777777

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I'm 32 looks like my retirement party and funeral will be on the same day!
 

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If you are at retirement age, you should be minimizing your exposure in the stock market and should be in fixed income if a drop in equities is going to affect your ability to live comfortably. If not, that is major gambling.

The traditional fixed income options are currently yeilding less than 0.1% or carry higher risk than equities, Bruce. Traditional strategies are simply not working right now. I can't even find a mortgage to buy that yeilds over 3-4% unless it is held by an unemployed deadbeat and near default.
 

12vMan

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Traditional strategies are simply not working right now.

Boy, ain't that the truth, nor have they been since before the e - boom.

p.s. if you reply to this JB happy 41000th post :cool:
 

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Originally Posted by scipper77
What are we supposed to do with the money we just pulled out?? Stuff it in our mattress.
Yep but mine is in a biga** cellar safe. :).

I know exactly how much is in there when I went to bed last night and ....

I'll bet I have the same amount in there this morning. :).
 

bruceb58

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The strategy is don't have any dollars in equities that you need within the next 10 years.
 

Tim Frank

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Nortel vs. Beer....a Primer/Parable on equity Markets


Big Ted lived a full life and died in the year 2000, leaving only $10,000 to be split equally between his sons Ted Junior and Tim. Tim took his $5000 and immediately invested in the hot stock of the day, Nortel. After paying the sales commission, he got 40 shares.

Ted Junior was more like his father and decided to spend his money on a huge party for his friends. Ted?s $5000 paid for 166 cases of beer that was all consumed in a huge bash. It took a week to clean up after this party. Ted piled all the empties in the back of his garage and forgot about them for a long time.

A month ago, Ted decided to clean out his garage. A few of his friends who had partied with him over 8 years earlier helped bring all the empties back to the beer store. There was surprisingly little breakage, and Ted got back enough from the empties to buy 13 more cases of beer for another smaller party.

This time Ted took the empties back to the beer store promptly for a return of 13x$2.40=$31.20. This was just enough to buy another case. He finished the last beer in that case last night and cashed in the empties this morning for $2.40.

Over his coffee this morning, Tim was checking his stocks. At the bottom of the list was the sad line showing his shares of Nortel. After the 10 to 1 reverse split of Nortel stock, Tim?s 40 shares had turned into only 4 shares. They now trade for only 10 cents each. Tim?s original $5000 investment is now worth $0.40.

Ted the partier put everything he had into beer three times, and he still has more money than his brother Tim who invested ?for the future.?

People are likely to see different morals in a story like this. Some will say ?live for today.? Others might say that stocks are too dangerous. I think the real moral is to avoid buying the hot stock of the day and make sure that your investments are properly diversified.
 

12vMan

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Nortel vs. Beer....a Primer/Parable on equity Markets


Big Ted lived a full life and died in the year 2000, leaving only $10,000 to be split equally between his sons Ted Junior and Tim. Tim took his $5000 and immediately invested in the hot stock of the day, Nortel. After paying the sales commission, he got 40 shares.

Ted Junior was more like his father and decided to spend his money on a huge party for his friends. Ted?s $5000 paid for 166 cases of beer that was all consumed in a huge bash. It took a week to clean up after this party. Ted piled all the empties in the back of his garage and forgot about them for a long time.

A month ago, Ted decided to clean out his garage. A few of his friends who had partied with him over 8 years earlier helped bring all the empties back to the beer store. There was surprisingly little breakage, and Ted got back enough from the empties to buy 13 more cases of beer for another smaller party.

This time Ted took the empties back to the beer store promptly for a return of 13x$2.40=$31.20. This was just enough to buy another case. He finished the last beer in that case last night and cashed in the empties this morning for $2.40.

Over his coffee this morning, Tim was checking his stocks. At the bottom of the list was the sad line showing his shares of Nortel. After the 10 to 1 reverse split of Nortel stock, Tim?s 40 shares had turned into only 4 shares. They now trade for only 10 cents each. Tim?s original $5000 investment is now worth $0.40.

Ted the partier put everything he had into beer three times, and he still has more money than his brother Tim who invested ?for the future.?

People are likely to see different morals in a story like this. Some will say ?live for today.? Others might say that stocks are too dangerous. I think the real moral is to avoid buying the hot stock of the day and make sure that your investments are properly diversified.


I agree totally with diversification all the way, especially if your over 40...by the way, are you the infamous Tim? :D
 
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